Worse contract-Hosmer or Davis

[theobird]

STATS

	GP	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
2017 Regular Season	162	603	98	192	31	1	25	94	66	104	6	1	.318	.385	.498	.882
Career	1048	3991	547	1132	206	16	127	566	360	714	60	19	.284	.342	.439	.781

[theobird]

Really bad? I wish Davis really bad seasons looked like that.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, theobird said:

STATS

	GP	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
2017 Regular Season	162	603	98	192	31	1	25	94	66	104	6	1	.318	.385	.498	.882
Career	1048	3991	547	1132	206	16	127	566	360	714	60	19	.284	.342	.439	.781

2012 Regular Season      152     535     65      124   22    2    14     60   56     95    16   1   232   304    359   663

[Enjoy Terror]

Why does anyone in this thread think that Machado would entertain signing an extension with the Orioles? It's been pretty clear from the get go that he wanted to get paid in free agency.

[theobird]

1 hour ago, Enjoy Terror said:

Why does anyone in this thread think that Machado would entertain signing an extension with the Orioles? It's been pretty clear from the get go that he wanted to get paid in free agency.

Oh, he is gonna get paid. No doubt about that. We will have to be the high bidder to keep him. 

[weams]

2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

For a "really good baseball player" he's had some really bad seasons.

Hosmer is not much. 

[weams]

Just now, weams said:

Hosmer is not much. 

Now don't get me wrong, I'd take him even up for Davis on a four-year deal at 17 million per season.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, theobird said:

Oh, he is gonna get paid. No doubt about that. We will have to be the high bidder to keep him. 

Maybe by a lot.

You think 5% more than the Yankees are offering gets it done?

Think of how stacked that team will be for the next few years.  Much better chance at getting a ring.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Now don't get me wrong, I'd take him even up for Davis on a four-year deal at 17 million per season.

Davis isn't much these days.

[theobird]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Maybe by a lot.

You think 5% more than the Yankees are offering gets it done?

Think of how stacked that team will be for the next few years.  Much better chance at getting a ring.

That is true. I would think that money being even, Machado would stay in his comfortable environment, but you may be right. Not trading him by now is the dumbest possible scenario, but here we are.

 

[weams]

31 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Maybe by a lot.

You think 5% more than the Yankees are offering gets it done?

Think of how stacked that team will be for the next few years.  Much better chance at getting a ring.

I would think the "Not-Yankees" tax would be in the  12 to 15 % range. That adds another generation.

[DrungoHazewood]

15 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

2012 Regular Season      152     535     65      124   22    2    14     60   56     95    16   1   232   304    359   663

Hosmer has been in the league for seven seasons, and has three good ones.  Folks focus on Davis' down years, but 11 of Hosmer's 14 wins worth of career value came in three seasons.

[Redskins Rick]

14 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Hosmer has been in the league for seven seasons, and has three good ones.  Folks focus on Davis' down years, but 11 of Hosmer's 14 wins worth of career value came in three seasons.

Weird about Hosmer, every other year is really bad and pretty good. There is no inbetween with this guy.

Doesn't make too much sense, not sure, Ive seen this type of split for as long as he has done it.

[Frobby]

19 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Hosmer has been in the league for seven seasons, and has three good ones.  Folks focus on Davis' down years, but 11 of Hosmer's 14 wins worth of career value came in three seasons.

Yeah, Hosmer has been no more consistent than Davis, and his “up” years haven’t been as strong as Davis’ “up” years.    That said, the fact that he’s two years younger works strongly in his favor, plus the annual salary is less.    I don’t like either deal, but I’d say Davis’ was worse, even without applying 20/20 hindsight and knowing how Davis’ deal has gone the last two years.   

[DrungoHazewood]

9 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Weird about Hosmer, every other year is really bad and pretty good. There is no inbetween with this guy.

Doesn't make too much sense, not sure, Ive seen this type of split for as long as he has done it.

Channeling the ghost of Harry Heilmann, who won batting titles in '21, '23, '25, and '27.  Except that Heilmann's even years make Eric Hosmer's good years look like Ryan Flaherty...