Buck, Dan and ownership need to deal with the Davis issue first

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, atomic said:

I think it is safe to buy a Chris Davis Jersey as he will be here the next 4 1/2 seasons.

The one thing about this situation is people on here posting about giving Manny a 400 million dollar contract.   People never learn. 

I don't think he will make it all the way to the end of that contract.  He keeps playing like this something has to give at some point.  Might be three years down the line but at some point.

[Ohfan67]

1 hour ago, Richmond Bird 9 said:

Chris Davis option 3: 

Listening to MASN talking about Chris....PUT HIM ON WAIVERS

If someone claims him (and his salary) get a charter jet NOW.

If he passes thru waivers you can send him to the minors. If he refuses (he can), he becomes a F/A (however I think the O's don't have to pay him). In 2017 the Red Sox had two players in the minors that they were paying 11 mil or more (Allen Craig/11 mil and Rusney Castillo/11.271 mil). Castillo still has 3yrs/36.8 mil left on his contract and will stay in the minors( batting .295 with NO h/r's). I think this shows that these players went to the minors to get their paychecks. A side note, if a player is in the minors their contract does NOT count toward the luxury tax (that is way Castillo does not get called up as a 4th/5th o/f).

Tell Chris when he hits and stays at .300 for a month, you will call him up. Or he and his agent may decide that Chris does not want to ride the buses for 4 1/2 yrs and ask for a settlement.

The Orioles can’t use this mechanism to avoid paying Davis. The Orioles would have have to pay his salary.  If it was this easy, then every team would do this with their horrible contracts. I don’t know why those guys are still in the minors, but there’s no mechanism that allows the Orioles to ditch Davis’ contract. They made the deal and now they have to pay for it. 

[Richmond Bird 9]

55 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

The O's have to pay him.

I think if he refuses to go to the minors you do not have to pay him. I listed two red Sox players, Craig and Castillo. Craig in 2017 had 6 yrs MLB svc time, yet in 2017 in was in the minors and the Sox paid him, Craig wanted that 11 mil paycheck. I feel if Chris want to get paid and he clears waivers he has to go to the minors to get paid.

Their are a lot of smarter people on this board than me, I am old school and still look at the back of baseball cards. If there is a rule out there, someone pls post.

My question is why is Castillo playing in the minors. 50 mil is a lot to pay for someone to play 5 yrs in the minors (contract per Cots).

[Frobby]

6 minutes ago, Richmond Bird 9 said:

I think if he refuses to go to the minors you do not have to pay him. I listed two red Sox players, Craig and Castillo. Craig in 2017 had 6 yrs MLB svc time, yet in 2017 in was in the minors and the Sox paid him, Craig wanted that 11 mil paycheck. I feel if Chris want to get paid and he clears waivers he has to go to the minors to get paid.

Their are a lot of smarter people on this board than me, I am old school and still look at the back of baseball cards. If there is a rule out there, someone pls post.

My question is why is Castillo playing in the minors. 50 mil is a lot to pay for someone to play 5 yrs in the minors (contract per Cots).

You still have to pay him, even if he refuses the minors, trust me.    He was a major league free agent when he signed and his contract is guaranteed.   

[Richmond Bird 9]

5 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

The Orioles can’t use this mechanism to avoid paying Davis. The Orioles would have have to pay his salary.  If it was this easy, then every team would do this with their horrible contracts. I don’t know why those guys are still in the minors, but there’s no mechanism that allows the Orioles to ditch Davis’ contract. They made the deal and now they have to pay for it. 

Once again, I am NOT saying they don't have to pay him. It gets him off the 40 man roster. If Chris does not want to go...I feel the O's do not have to pay him. The Dodgers had two players they did the same thing with (one they are still paying). He was a SS from Cuba that did not work out. Check out Cots and look at the bottom. Here are two teams (Red Sox and Dodgers) that are paying big bucks for someone to play or not play in the minors.

[atomic]

Buck says Chris is the teams first baseman and will play there every day only sitting for tough match ups. 

[FanSince88]

6 hours ago, RZNJ said:

  Let him play the rest of the season and see if he can help us get that first pick in the 2019 draft.   Half joking!

Actually I take that idea seriously, and it's a pretty decent one.  It could end up being a situation where the Orioles' FO's penchant for inertia actually benefits them in the long term.  Playing Chris Davis is a sneaky tanking strategy, come to think of it.  If his negative WAR makes the difference between last place and second to last, the marginal value of the first pick over the second could be very beneficial to the team in a future year when we hopefully have a chance to contend.  If we stink next year too, which is likely, we have the chance to enlist Davis' "services" to help us get another very high pick.  All without the front office having to make any risky or non-obvious decisions or admitting defeat.  

[Ohfan67]

1 hour ago, Richmond Bird 9 said:

Once again, I am NOT saying they don't have to pay him. It gets him off the 40 man roster. If Chris does not want to go...I feel the O's do not have to pay him. The Dodgers had two players they did the same thing with (one they are still paying). He was a SS from Cuba that did not work out. Check out Cots and look at the bottom. Here are two teams (Red Sox and Dodgers) that are paying big bucks for someone to play or not play in the minors.

Huh? What do you mean by the bolded text. If he doesn’t accept an assignment, then he’s a free agent. And the Os have to pay his contract. It’s DFA.  A release. I don’t get your argument at all. 

[Ohfan67]

1 hour ago, Richmond Bird 9 said:

I think if he refuses to go to the minors you do not have to pay him. 

This is totally incorrect. 

[Richmond Bird 9]

17 minutes ago, Ohfan67 said:

This is totally incorrect. 

Ok, I may be wrong. However, no one has advised why both the Red Sox and Dodgers paid and are paying for players to be in the minors. For the two Red Sox players per Baseball Ref they showed both Craig and Castillo off the  40 man roster however still paid them. The Dodger player is Erisbel Arruebarruena and was DFA 12/31/14. He played a couple of years in the low minors for the Dodgers after that and this is the last year of his contract and is being paid...Thx.

[Moose Milligan]

1 hour ago, atomic said:

Buck says Chris is the teams first baseman and will play there every day only sitting for tough match ups. 

Hasn't Buck realized that every day is a tough matchup for him?

[atomic]

5 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Hasn't Buck realized that every day is a tough matchup for him?

True.   I doubt Davis could get a hit off Tillman. 

[Moose Milligan]

1 minute ago, atomic said:

True.   I doubt Davis could get a hit off Tillman. 

Oh man, I dunno.  That's an interesting one to ponder.  Like a little league version if Ohtani could pitch to himself.

Too bad we'll never find out.

[OriolesMagic83]

Ponson assaulted a judge and still got paid.  Does anyone know what percentage of his salary he got paid.  I bet it was the overwhelming majority.  The only way Davis doesn't get paid is if he tests positive multiple times for steroids and is banned from baseball, or if he retires and the O's wouldn't have to pay him.  I think its much more likely he accepts a settlement paid out over a longer time (of almost all the money he is owed).

[Spy Fox]

23 minutes ago, atomic said:

True.   I doubt Davis could get a hit off Tillman. 

 

20 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Oh man, I dunno.  That's an interesting one to ponder.  Like a little league version if Ohtani could pitch to himself.

Too bad we'll never find out.

I remember earlier in the year I said advantage Tillman.

But you know, slow velos are the only thing Davis can still hit. If the league was full of Chris Tillmans then Chris Davis might still be Chris Davis.