Orioles Deal Gausman/O'Day to Braves - Schoop to Brewers

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, webbrick2010 said:

 

I suspect the Braves will DFA O'day next spring   

 

I seriously doubt that.    He’s no longer a dominant reliever, but he’s decent and a great clubhouse guy. They’re going to pay his salary either way so they might as well use him.  

[justice98]

2 minutes ago, Cy Bundy said:

Hard to trade Schoop and Gausman without getting a top 100 prospect back, but we pulled it off.

I mean, between the two of 'em can you give me one?  I'll take #100.  No?  Ok, gimme what you got then. lol

[GoldGlove21]

2 minutes ago, jamalshw said:

Orioles NEED to get Gaston and VVM to make this make sense.

I agree

[joelala]

Brewers trade looks good.  Braves trade looks pretty bad to me.  Encarnacion is intriguing, but to not get one of those four top 100 pitching prospects is a bit of a slap in the face...

[atomic]

1 minute ago, Cy Bundy said:

Hard to trade Schoop and Gausman without getting a top 100 prospect back, but we pulled it off.

But we saved a ton of money.   

[Reboulet'sStache]

1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

Really?  Shedding payroll is a horrible thing?  It's not just NEXT year, it's for the following years, too.  It's for when some of these guys come up and contribute we can extend them before they hit FA.  So we avoid another Manny situation.  

Next year, really?  C'mon.  

Yes, it's a horrible thing.  I'm not sure why this is complicated.  

What do we need to shed payroll for at the expense of prospects?  It made some sense sending Webb to the Dodgers with the draft pick to shed his salary.  We were trying to compete that year, and so needed the freed up payroll.

We aren't trying to compete next year.  Our entire mentality should be the complete opposite right now.  What can we do to expand the prospect return at the cost of the short term?   We just sacrificed a prospect return to free up money to do absolutely nothing with it.  Or at least anything we should be doing.  

[maybenxtyr]

Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

Why else would we do it?

So they can trade it to the Yankees.

[El_Duderino]

4 minutes ago, Sir_Loin said:

Because they threw in $2.5M in slot money. Gausman for VVM. We now have over $6M in intl slot money.

Could have done VMM without the extra slot money. We already had the ability to offer the most. Should have ate the Oday contract and gotten one of those elite pitching prospects back.

[GoldGlove21]

Just now, justice98 said:

I mean, between the two of 'em can you give me one?  I'll take #100.  No?  Ok, gimme what you got then. lol

They had like 9 players in the top #100 and we couldn't get one BECAUSE...... we offloaded O'Day' money.

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, atomic said:

12 million dollars as a throw in?  

It’s not like O’Day will have no value next year.  

[terpfan101]

5 minutes ago, webbrick2010 said:

Braves are very well run organization. I'd say we got fleeced a bit. Gausman in the NL with outfielders who can actually catch is going to be very good. Hopefully not Jake Arietta good but very good for two more years

I suspect the Braves will DFA O'day next spring.

Silver lining is the International Slot money and what big plan the O's have for it.

 

And eat $9M salary? I think they'll use him, hope he's a 3 something ERA reliever.

Edited July 31, 2018 by terpfan101

[MDK02]

Looks like DD decided on trading them no matter who we got in return. 

[ThomasTomasz]

1 minute ago, jgjbanker said:

Agree on the Braves trade. Underwhelming at best. With all of the money we have already shed, I would have preferred to keep O'Day and try to move him at next year's trade line and try to get a better return for Gaus. 

Zimmermann is an extremely underrated arm, looks like he could be a high upside candidate- https://www.talkingchop.com/2018/7/10/17551486/the-rise-of-atlanta-braves-minor-league-prospect-bruce-zimmermann

Phillips, meanwhile, could form a dominate back end of the bullpen with Cody Carroll if they pitch up to their numbers in AAA as dominate relievers.  

[eddie83]

1 minute ago, Reboulet'sStache said:

Yes, it's a horrible thing.  I'm not sure why this is complicated.  

What do we need to shed payroll for at the expense of prospects?  It made some sense sending Webb to the Dodgers with the draft pick to shed his salary.  We were trying to compete that year, and so needed the freed up payroll.

We aren't trying to compete next year.  Our entire mentality should be the complete opposite right now.  What can we do to expand the prospect return at the cost of the short term?   We just sacrificed a prospect return to free up money to do absolutely nothing with it.  Or at least anything we should be doing.  

Why do you think they wanted 2.5 M from Braves?  Where is that money going?  Prospects.  

[Thato'sfan]

1 minute ago, El_Duderino said:

Could have done VMM without the extra slot money. We already had the ability to offer the most. Should have ate the Oday contract and gotten one of those elite pitching prospects back.

Marlins were making a push for VVM. Yankees got over 3 million this week. Perhaps the Orioles view VVM as the center piece for the future of the organization. Wanted to guarantee his signing.