Grade the Gausman Deal

[Frobby]

Simple poll.    Let’s see how it grades out.   

[Lucky_13]

C with the possibility of improvement depending on who they sign internationally 

[ChipTait]

I like that they unloaded O'Day (as much as I appreciated everything he did here) and that they got back a whole lot of international slot cash, but I'm not overwhelmed by the players coming back.

[nevadaO]

C+ with the $2.5M International money.

Not thrilled with the quantity over quality approach however. Had a chance to get a really good prospect. 

I guess we'll see though.

[Santandah]

I think we were spoiled a little by the first two trades of the offseason. There are no blue chippers here, but there's some potential. This becomes a solid A- if that slot money turns into VVM. It's all about context.

Also, I don't mind excising Gausman. Maybe he finds himself in ATL. But if we're really honest about what he's been with the O's, it's that he's been a tease.

The guy is at his best when the season is already over. And I've never seen a pitcher blow leads as consistently as Kevin Gausman. Sometimes it felt like clockwork. If the O's got him a lead, he'd just give it back.

 

[Otter]

I voted C.  It really could turn out as an A if we use the international bonus money to sign Mesa.  On the other hand, if we don't sign Mesa it could be an F.  Thus, I averaged the two grades and came up with a C....

[Santandah]

So far all C's. Let's not forget that C is average. That does not feel like losing a trade. 

[sportsfan8703]

C. But if we get VVM then it could go up to an A. 

[MurphDogg]

F.

Terrible trade, they leveraged Gausman's value into dumping O'Day's salary. They didn't need to trade Gausman and none of the players coming back look to be impact Major League players.

I also don't believe that the Orioles will use all of their international money, most of the good players have already signed, and international scouting is a long game not one you can dive into at the drop of a hat. I don't think that this $2.5 million is the difference in acquiring VVM and not acquiring him, they already had the most money.

[Rene88]

All depends on Victor Victor. If we get him, A-B. If not, C.

[LocoChris]

6 minutes ago, ChipTait said:

I like that they unloaded O'Day (as much as I appreciated everything he did here) and that they got back a whole lot of international slot cash, but I'm not overwhelmed by the players coming back.

Yeah this. I give it a C-

[TouchemAll]

Man you guys are tuff I like the international slot $$ I'll go  B-

[eddie83]

5 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

F.

Terrible trade, they leveraged Gausman's value into dumping O'Day's salary. They didn't need to trade Gausman and none of the players coming back look to be impact Major League players.

I also don't believe that the Orioles will use all of their international money, most of the good players have already signed, and international scouting is a long game not one you can dive into at the drop of a hat. I don't think that this $2.5 million is the difference in acquiring VVM and not acquiring him, they already had the most money.

Then why did they make the deal? What good is the Int money? 

[gtman55]

People seem to act like Gausman was Cy Young. A 39-51 career record isn't good no matter how you slice it. Yes, he has skills but I think he also was a bit of a head case and never put it together here. I wish him well but we made the right move. And, if the international money helps you get Mesa, it's a very good B+ deal.

Edited July 31, 2018 by gtman55

[Enjoy Terror]

The whole thing reminds me Arrieta. A hugely talented pitcher that the Orioles can’t squeeze anything out of.