Mesa Brothers Declared Free Agents By MLB

[sangar]

Haven't I read several times on this board that Mesa's ceiling is Craig Genty?

So he has the potential to one day be a light hitting mediocre backup role player?

I don't get the enthusiasm.

 

[Can_of_corn]

11 minutes ago, sangar said:

Haven't I read several times on this board that Mesa's ceiling is Craig Genty?

So he has the potential to one day be a light hitting mediocre backup role player?

I don't get the enthusiasm.

 

How familiar are you with Gentry's career?

If Mesa ends up at 2012-2013 Gentry level (Pre-concussion issues) I'd be pleased.  Of course I'd expect VVM to start his ML career a few years earlier than Gentry did.

 

I'm pretty impressed Gentry made it back to play as well as he did this year. 

 

[spiritof66]

1 hour ago, Rene88 said:

If they fail to sign the big prize, they are going to look like the biggest jokes in baseball. I gotta think DD isn’t that inept and he gets this done. 

He won't get it done if he's off the payroll in a few weeks.

[Going Underground]

1 hour ago, ScGO's said:

I hope our perceived dysfunction in the front office doesn't scare the brothers off.

Money talks,dysfunction walks.

[bobmc]

1 minute ago, Going Underground said:

Money talks,dysfunction walks.

Word has it that Juan Moncada texted the Hermanos Mesa and said he thought they could start next week if they sign pronto.

[Il BuonO]

2 hours ago, sangar said:

Haven't I read several times on this board that Mesa's ceiling is Craig Genty?

So he has the potential to one day be a light hitting mediocre backup role player?

I don't get the enthusiasm.

I haven’t read that comparison once from anyone here. If VVM has a ceiling of Gentry then they should trade the money again. And I’m a Gentry fan. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

I haven’t read that comparison once from anyone here. If VVM has a ceiling of Gentry then they should trade the money again. And I’m a Gentry fan. 

As I've already stated Gentry was a pretty good player before the injuries. 

[Tx Oriole]

2 hours ago, Going Underground said:

Money talks,dysfunction walks.

It'd scare me off. 

[Il BuonO]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

As I've already stated Gentry was a pretty good player before the injuries. 

I didn’t quote you, but ok, duly noted. You’re on the record.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Il BuonO said:

I didn’t quote you, but ok, duly noted. You’re on the record.

You would have a problem with a 109 OPS+, plus defense in center and 24/27 stolen bases?

[Il BuonO]

5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

You would have a problem with a 109 OPS+, plus defense in center and 24/27 stolen bases?

Gentry did that once. So, yes. I see his ceiling as much higher than that. Any eventual comp to ‘good’ Gentry would be a disappointment.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Il BuonO said:

Yes. I see his ceiling as much higher than that. Any eventual comp to ‘good’ Gentry would be a disappointment.

Alright.

We disagree.

 

I will say that I didn't see enough of Gentry to get a solid read on his defense before the injuries.  It is possible that VVM would be superior.

[LookitsPuck]

Gentry had a 4 year period where he put up 9.7 WAR. I'd say that's pretty solid. And if VVM plays for the Orioles, he'd presumably be called up sooner. Gentry didn't get more than 35 plate appearances until he 27 years old. I'd hope (expect) VVM to be up in a more regular appearance by the time he's 24-25.

[Luke-OH]

3 hours ago, sangar said:

Haven't I read several times on this board that Mesa's ceiling is Craig Genty?

So he has the potential to one day be a light hitting mediocre backup role player?

I don't get the enthusiasm.

 

His ceiling isn't Craig Gentry. He has significantly more pop than prime Gentry. The question with VVM is hit tool, he struggled in a SSS in the Canadian-American Association in 2017. 

As with anyone with hit tool questions but big tools otherwise, there is a wide range of outcomes. He could never figure out MLB pitching, or he could be an all-star caliber player if he can get to average hit tool. The swing works and there is bat speed so it's going to be a matter of pitch and zone recognition. I have no idea of whether he'll develop those qualities, I'd need to see him against high minors pitching before I'd be comfortable making that assessment.

I think Albert Almora Jr is a reasonable projection but the error bars are big here. 

[atomic]

53 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

As I've already stated Gentry was a pretty good player before the injuries. 

The most plate appearances he ever had was 287 at age 29.  He was never an every day player.