International Signing Alexander Ayala

[joelala]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think they should be thinking bigger picture and not "My owner doesn't spend on International players and maybe a draft will force him to."

I understand both of the argument, but yes I'm personally of the opinion that the players should be able to keep the leverage they currently have in the open market.

[Frobby]

24 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Thanks for telling me what my priorities should be.

 

I would like to have someone explain to me what type of money is needed for scouting that a large market team would end up with a significant advantage over what a smaller market team could spend if they desired to.

None of us really knows, but here is the best I can do.   In 2010, Deadspin obtained and published the financials of five major league teams.    Three of those teams’ financials had a line item for scouting and player development combined:

Seattle $15.5 mm

Pittsburgh $23.2 mm

Tampa $21.9 mm

The Angels reported scouting ($11.3 mm) separately from minor league operations ($8 mm).    

Now, that was eight years ago, but it gives you a rough idea.

 

 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

None of us really knows, but here is the best I can do.   In 2010, Deadspin obtained and published the financials of five major league teams.    Three of those teams’ financials had a line item for scouting and player development combined:

Seattle $15.5 mm

Pittsburgh $23.2 mm

Tampa $21.9 mm

The Angels reported scouting ($11.3 mm) separately from minor league operations ($8 mm).    

Now, that was eight years ago, but it gives you a rough idea.

 

 

Both Pittsburgh and Tamps can be described as small market and yet they had the money available to outspend the larger market teams in Seattle and LA.

[scOtt]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Both Pittsburgh and Tamps can be described as small market and yet they had the money available to outspend the larger market teams in Seattle and LA.

15 to 20-couple mill isn't a huge chunk of the overall budget. I guess it comes down to priorities?

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, scOtt said:

15 to 20-couple mill isn't a huge chunk of the overall budget. I guess it comes down to priorities?

Sure, and it's a convenient narrative owners can use to push their agenda.  If they can convince fans that a draft is a way to "even the playing field".

[Frobby]

14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Both Pittsburgh and Tamps can be described as small market and yet they had the money available to outspend the larger market teams in Seattle and LA.

Most of the financials related to 2008.   For context, here were the major league payrolls for the teams involved:

Seattle $118 mm (9th)

Pittsburgh $49 mm (27th)

Tampa $45 mm (29th)

Angels $119 mm (8th)

I think in 2008 spending on international free agents was uncapped, but I don’t remember for sure.  (Edit: I’m correct.) 

 

 

 

[Legend_Of_Joey]

I thought this said "signed Domingo Ayala" at first....

Was this a late announced signing, or the first signing under the Hyde Era?

[SteveA]

3 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

I thought this said "signed Domingo Ayala" at first....

Was this a late announced signing, or the first signing under the Hyde Era?

The linked article in the initial post just has the following throwaway line.   

 

There are also rumors that the Orioles have unofficially signed a left-handed pitcher named Alexander Ayala out of Panama.

 

I think this is all we know.   Question:  how do you "unofficially sign" someone?

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, SteveA said:

The linked article in the initial post just has the following throwaway line.   

 

There are also rumors that the Orioles have unofficially signed a left-handed pitcher named Alexander Ayala out of Panama.

 

I think this is all we know.   Question:  how do you "unofficially sign" someone?

Ask Kim Seong-min.

[jrobb21613]

Roch mentions signing in latest blog.

 

Left-hander Alexander Ayala of Panama is a shining example. The Orioles reached agreement with Ayala on a six-figure bonus - first reported by The Athletic and confirmed here - with the approval of Elias and assistant scouting director Brad Ciolek

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2019/01/more-on-perez-maduro-and-expanded-interest-internationally.html

 

[Enjoy Terror]

These guys knew about the signing a week and a half ago. Interesting we’re just now hearing it.

[jerios55]

If he is a HS student, does this signing mess with his ability to play with the HS team?  I know it can in college, but never thought about it for HS.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, jerios55 said:

If he is a HS student, does this signing mess with his ability to play with the HS team?  I know it can in college, but never thought about it for HS.

No chance the O's would let him pitch.

[Luke-OH]

3 minutes ago, jerios55 said:

If he is a HS student, does this signing mess with his ability to play with the HS team?  I know it can in college, but never thought about it for HS.

Yeah, he won't play for his HS team. The question is whether they keep him in Florida or if they send him down to the DSL to play in the summer.

[SteveA]

Benny Ayala had 1.6 career WAR as an Oriole.

Luis Ayala had -0.1 career WAR as an Oriole.

So, as of now, Alexander is the 2nd best Ayala in club history.