I really want to keep Villar (Update: Traded to Marlins for LHS Easton Lucas)

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Yardball85 said:

Right, I understand that. The payroll, outside of Davis, should be so incredibly low that paying $10M to a 4 WAR player should not be so terrible.

Cobb.

[Roll Tide]

Just now, NCRaven said:

This is the first move by Elias that I flat out disagree with.  Keeping a sunk cost like Davis and dumping a useful player over $7-10 million in today’s baseball dollars is sick,

  Unbelievable cheap move.....No justification .... Just Greed!

 

[theocean]

34 minutes ago, Spl51 said:

The fact that you think this cratering is a plan and not forced on them given the circumstances, show that you haven't been paying attention. This is the beginning of the process to get to a new system, not the middle of it.

He's clearly been paying attention. He just doesn't agree with it. The Orioles' new process is by no means a slam-dunk to success.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think it very unlikely that Elias is in favor of keeping Davis around.

People seem to keep forgetting this point on Davis. Cutting Davis on day one would have been Elias very first move if allowed by ownership. 

[interloper]

10 minutes ago, weams said:

He is off the roster. He can not be returned to it. 

Nope, he's on the 40-man and can still agree to a new deal before the deadline. So says Connolly.

[7Mo]

Just now, theocean said:

He's clearly been paying attention. He just doesn't agree with it. The Orioles' new process is by no means a slam-dunk to success.

It's clearly not a slam dunk but I like the "all in" much more than a half way approach, talking in general, not specific to Villar. 

And I don't think Villar is done. I still think he gets traded before Monday night.

[Legend_Of_Joey]

12 minutes ago, weams said:

He is off the roster. He can not be returned to it. 

Wrong, Weams. He is still on the 40.

[MurphDogg]

9 minutes ago, SteveA said:

That's certainly not their stated strategy.   Their stated strategy is to build a sustaining farm and development system that is continually pumping out young players to keep the team in contention.   And that is certainly, so far, what has happened with the Astros, who have been good a lot longer than 2-3 years now.

Where are you getting that from?

You can quibble about the number of years that they will compete, it likely is more than 2-3, it depends on the market size, but the strategy is dependent on hitting rock bottom for multiple years which is what the Astros did. It is dependent on insulting your paying fans in the non-competing years. 

[weams]

Just now, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Wrong, Weams. He is still on the 40.

Ok. When does he come off?  Were you told this? Not being sarcastic. I'd like to know. 

 

[weams]

1 minute ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

Wrong, Weams. He is still on the 40.

The Orioles did not announce this yet. And don't look for the website to be updated. The point was he is not coming back unless as a FA. 

[atomic]

I think this is the low point of franchise history.  Maybe time to become a Nationals or Yankees fan.  

[wildcard]

1 minute ago, weams said:

The Orioles did not announce this yet. And don't look for the website to be updated. The point was he is not coming back unless as a FA. 

He is not coming back unless he will resign for 560k.

[Enjoy Terror]

Just now, atomic said:

I think this is the low point of franchise history.  Maybe time to become a Nationals or Yankees fan.  

You’ve only been a fan since 2012, I gather.

[Legend_Of_Joey]

2 minutes ago, weams said:

Ok. When does he come off?  Were you told this? Not being sarcastic. I'd like to know. 

 

 

1 minute ago, weams said:

The Orioles did not announce this yet. And don't look for the website to be updated. The point was he is not coming back unless as a FA. 

Since you are on Twitter, check out Dan Connelly, since I can't post tweets for some reason.

Villar was put on the "waiver wire," meaning he is still with the team and on the 40 man roster UNTIL a trade is made or he is released.

If no trade happens prior to the non tender deadline, he will either be offered a contract or not, making him a free agent.

"DFA" is a MUCH different meaning when it comes to a roster move. 

Not all roster moves are equal.

[weams]