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Heard a lot of good stuff about Joey Ortiz this spring and he’s lived up to it in the first week of the season with Aberdeen.   In 27 PA he’s hit .348/.444/.565.    Worth keeping an eye on!

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I watched Ortiz play at NM State for 2 seasons. He has crazy speed on the bases and some of the quickest hands at SS that I have ever seen. He can also hit. Ortiz at SS and Nick Gonzales (Pirates) at

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Bradish was drafted in the 4th round in 2018 (#121) and Ortiz 2019 in the 4th round (#118). Interesting to note that at one point, Ortiz, Gonzales, Bradish AND Tyler Irwin were all on the same te

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42 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Ortiz was pulled from the Bowie game tonight after two at bats.   I hope he’s not injured, but I’d guess he is.   Hopefully minor.  

Yusniel's rehab last week I think he exited after 2 PA one of the early games; fingers crossed this is NASA-level baby steps.

I was worried the story about original incident on 6/12 that the On the Verge's twitter gave about big hack hurting his shoulder as when little guys bulk up to sting the ball (as was Blood's enthusiastic take), I just worry if the kinetic chain can take the extra force for a season of baseball.

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13 hours ago, waroriole said:

I’d hope to see Ortiz return soon. Off to a promising start this year. But I don’t see any news about him

The Orioles organization is keeping their minor league injury news tighter than NSA keeps their data. I've officially asked multiple times only to be told, "There is no updates to share." Considering they feed their Orioles owned- MASN people information before anyone else, we'll just have to wait until Steve or Roch are fed something. 

Basically you have to wait until their "state run" media puts out any information or one of the other beat guys use a source to get information (if they really care enough to try and get that info). I'm done digging up sources and I don't want the people I do know to have their job jeopardized by me asking injury questions. It's sad that the organization does not feel this information is important to their fans. With very little excitement happening at the major league level, you would think they would be very interested in keeping fans engaged with the future, but alas, they have very little desire to keep the media and it's fans informed besides fluff pieces on particular prospects.

It's disappointing that Ortiz went down since he was making strides as a prospect but if he can't get and stay on the field, it will drop him behind a deep depth of middle infielders in the organization. Same thing with Anthony Servideo who really did nothing well much besides walking in his playing time before going down. 

Who knows, these guys could be out for another week or have career threatening injuries. With the Orioles organization now, we'll know when they decide the peasants/fans are allowed to know.

 

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4 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

The Orioles organization is keeping their minor league injury news tighter than NSA keeps their data. I've officially asked multiple times only to be told, "There is no updates to share." Considering they feed their Orioles owned- MASN people information before anyone else, we'll just have to wait until Steve or Roch are fed something. 

Basically you have to wait until their "state run" media puts out any information or one of the other beat guys use a source to get information (if they really care enough to try and get that info). I'm done digging up sources and I don't want the people I do know to have their job jeopardized by me asking injury questions. It's sad that the organization does not feel this information is important to their fans. With very little excitement happening at the major league level, you would think they would be very interested in keeping fans engaged with the future, but alas, they have very little desire to keep the media and it's fans informed besides fluff pieces on particular prospects.

It's disappointing that Ortiz went down since he was making strides as a prospect but if he can't get and stay on the field, it will drop him behind a deep depth of middle infielders in the organization. Same thing with Anthony Servideo who really did nothing well much besides walking in his playing time before going down. 

Who knows, these guys could be out for another week or have career threatening injuries. With the Orioles organization now, we'll know when they decide the peasants/fans are allowed to know.

 

Elias is probably only looking at whatever theoretical margin he can get by keeping other teams from having the information.

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9 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Elias is probably only looking at whatever theoretical margin he can get by keeping other teams from having the information.

Guy has a shoulder injury. It's been like 2 or 3 weeks. Well within the normal amount of time to heal a shoulder of a prospect you want to be careful with. What other updates are we looking for? We'll know when he gets back into games. 

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12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Elias is probably only looking at whatever theoretical margin he can get by keeping other teams from having the information.

It's all dumb. No reason not to just say, "Return is unknown or he's rehabbing and hoping to be back in 2-4 weeks or whatever." There is no advantage to hiding injuries or time tables to return. If they were baseball related injuries, there should not be any HIPPA concerns. It's just sad that the organization has decided to go in this direction. 

Oh well, one more thing to deal with. 

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6 minutes ago, interloper said:

Guy has a shoulder injury. It's been like 2 or 3 weeks. Well within the normal amount of time to heal a shoulder of a prospect you want to be careful with. What other updates are we looking for? We'll know when he gets back into games. 

General time frame? 2-4, 4-6 weeks, out for the year? This information was almost always available in the past. There is no advantage to hiding injury information when fans are following players, potentially of the future. 

You may not care, but many others do and as someone who gets asked these questions, it sucks that the information is being kept secret or given out to Orioles owned media mainly.

Hell, I couldn't even get a Sarasota roster of players, not the actual orange and black rosters, but the actual players in camp still? That's never happened to me in 25 season of doing this. 

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10 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

General time frame? 2-4, 4-6 weeks, out for the year? This information was almost always available in the past. There is no advantage to hiding injury information when fans are following players, potentially of the future. 

You may not care, but many others do and as someone who gets asked these questions, it sucks that the information is being kept secret or given out to Orioles owned media mainly.

Hell, I couldn't even get a Sarasota roster of players, not the actual orange and black rosters, but the actual players in camp still? That's never happened to me in 25 season of doing this. 

Yeah that's fair. I still think their communication overall is far better than it was under Duquette, but that's just my outside perception. Could be different for you and other media folks.

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5 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

It's all dumb. No reason not to just say, "Return is unknown or he's rehabbing and hoping to be back in 2-4 weeks or whatever." There is no advantage to hiding injuries or time tables to return. If they were baseball related injuries, there should not be any HIPPA concerns. It's just sad that the organization has decided to go in this direction. 

Oh well, one more thing to deal with. 

As a journalist most of my life, I'm shocked a professional sports team would be so secretive and that journalists at a major paper in Baltimore would not challenge the legality of this approach.

The NFL seems to be very open about injuries - every week of the season. There's no reason to keep secrets from the public that makes professional sports possible.

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As a journalist most of my life, I'm shocked a professional sports team would be so secretive and that journalists at a major paper in Baltimore would not challenge the legality of this approach.

The NFL seems to be very open about injuries - every week of the season. There's no reason to keep secrets from the public that makes professional sports possible.

That's because of the gambling.

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13 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

It's all dumb. No reason not to just say, "Return is unknown or he's rehabbing and hoping to be back in 2-4 weeks or whatever." There is no advantage to hiding injuries or time tables to return. If they were baseball related injuries, there should not be any HIPPA concerns. It's just sad that the organization has decided to go in this direction. 

Oh well, one more thing to deal with. 

Not specific to this situation but  the media hasn’t been able to cover teams like normal. My fear is teams will try on some level to keep it that way. 
 

The teams want to be in control of everything. Especially inside the clubhouse. 

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