Tuesday, May 11: John Means and O's visit Citi Field for the first of two games

[Moshagge3]

Just now, Beysbol said:

I agree. It was

The save Valdez blew against Boston in their first series at OPACY was more irritating, IMO.

[Gurgi]

Just now, Beysbol said:

I agree. It was

On the bright side...............we will lose others and they will be worse than this.  So cheer up. 

[Beysbol]

Just now, Gurgi said:

On the bright side...............we will lose others and they will be worse than this.  So cheer up. 

[spiritof66]

Just now, Gurgi said:

On the bright side...............we will lose others and they will be worse than this.  So cheer up. 

Thanks. I know I feel better now. 

[Moshagge3]

John Means lowers his ERA, still has a perfect record, I don't know what else you could want in this year of 2021. 

[Tony-OH]

3 minutes ago, Moshagge3 said:

Valdez gave up a ground ball that our "glove first" third baseman misplayed, a ground ball that got through because Mancini was holding the runner, a soft fly ball and another ground ball. When your closer isn't Aroldis Chapman and your IF and catcher defense is questionable these games will happen.

Like I said, it was a group loss. Valdez didn't quite have the movement of his pitches but everything you said matches what I wrote. 3B, 2B and C on this team are below replacement level right now.

[spiritof66]

3 minutes ago, Moshagge3 said:

The save Valdez blew against Boston in their first series at OPACY was more irritating, IMO.

Yeah, but that didn't just happen tonight. 

[spiritof66]

8 minutes ago, Moshagge3 said:

Valdez gave up a ground ball that our "glove first" third baseman misplayed, a ground ball that got through because Mancini was holding the runner, a soft fly ball and another ground ball. When your closer isn't Aroldis Chapman and your IF and catcher defense is questionable these games will happen.

Ruiz should have caught the ball, but it was hit real hard. So was the drive by Pillar that was foul by maybe a foot. Smith's hit was legitimate. There weren't many swings and misses.

[spiritof66]

I don't get the post-game. Did anyone ask Hyde why the OF was medium-deep with one out and a fast guy on third representing the winning run. It's incomprehensible to me. This is supposed to be a ML team, even if it is a real bad ML team.

[LocoChris]

15 minutes ago, Moshagge3 said:

Valdez gave up a ground ball that our "glove first" third baseman misplayed, a ground ball that got through because Mancini was holding the runner, a soft fly ball and another ground ball. When your closer isn't Aroldis Chapman and your IF and catcher defense is questionable these games will happen.

Yeah Valdez was not responsible for this one. Defense failed big time. 

[HowAboutThat]

34 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yes he was.   

Yes he was, you are correct. I watched it again. If the throw had been lower, maybe there’s a chance.

Im still annoyed at Severino, though.

Scott, too.

[HowAboutThat]

40 minutes ago, Dibbs31 said:

No way it was not a good throw. Even a perfect throw it would have been really close

The throw was way high. If it had been lower by a couple feet there might have been a chance. But yeah you’re right, it was not as bad as I initially thought.

[SteveA]

12 hours ago, spiritof66 said:

I don't get the post-game. Did anyone ask Hyde why the OF was medium-deep with one out and a fast guy on third representing the winning run. It's incomprehensible to me. This is supposed to be a ML team, even if it is a real bad ML team.

I must have missed that, did they show the outfield positioning on the broadcast?

[scOtt]

12 hours ago, Gurgi said:

On the bright side...............we will lose others and they will be worse than this.  So cheer up. 

We WILL NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spiritof66]

2 hours ago, SteveA said:

I must have missed that, did they show the outfield positioning on the broadcast?

I was watching on the Mets' station (blacked out of mlb.tv/MASN). They showed it, I think, three times.