The AFL Thread 2021

[cboemmeljr]

AFL GAME SUMMARY (10/26)

[Frobby]

5 hours ago, cboemmeljr said:

AFL GAME SUMMARY (10/26)

The Orioles’ pitchers have really gotten slammed the last two days.   

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

The Orioles’ pitchers have really gotten slammed the last two days.   

Not surprising, the O's sent over roster filler caliber arms.

[Il BuonO]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Not surprising, the O's sent over roster filler caliber arms.

I can’t believe it.  So, no prospects? Shocker.

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, Il BuonO said:

I can’t believe it.  So, no prospects? Shocker.

There wouldn’t be much point in limiting the prospects’ innings all year and then sending them to the AFL.   The four we sent all threw under 60 IP for the year and can use the extra work.   Bishop was having a good season but missed 6-7 weeks with an injury and wasn’t that effective when he returned.  

[Il BuonO]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

There wouldn’t be much point in limiting the prospects’ innings all year and then sending them to the AFL.   The four we sent all threw under 60 IP for the year and can use the extra work.   Bishop was having a good season but missed 6-7 weeks with an injury and wasn’t that effective when he returned.  

What is the basis for limiting their innings in the first place?

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Il BuonO said:

What is the basis for limiting their innings in the first place?

To avoid stress reactions in their elbows. 

[Il BuonO]

10 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

To avoid stress reactions in their elbows. 

They had a year off in most cases. There is nothing that shows less work after no work is a plan that prevents arm injuries.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Il BuonO said:

They had a year off in most cases. There is nothing that shows less work after no work is a plan that prevents arm injuries.

Should I have colored my font?

(Hall has a stress reaction in his elbow)

[Frobby]

30 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

They had a year off in most cases. There is nothing that shows less work after no work is a plan that prevents arm injuries.

I’m sure the Orioles have a lot more information on this topic than we do.   And it’s not like the O’s are off on an island here.   You can look all over the minors and the pitchers threw limited innings.  Maybe they’re all doing it based on superstition, but I tend to think that in today’s analytical environment they are probably relying on data that tells them this is the prudent course.  

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

I’m sure the Orioles have a lot more information on this topic than we do.   And it’s not like the O’s are off on an island here.   You can look all over the minors and the pitchers threw limited innings.  Maybe they’re all doing it based on superstition, but I tend to think that in today’s analytical environment they are probably relying on data that tells them this is the prudent course.  

And their #2 pitching prospect still got hurt.

Maybe they were being overly reckless? 

[Il BuonO]

53 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Should I have colored my font?

(Hall has a stress reaction in his elbow)

And you are sure it was due to his workload (or, lack thereof)? The Orioles do have more information than me, but there’s no chance he was headed for the injury regardless? 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

And you are sure it was due to his workload (or, lack thereof)? The Orioles do have more information than me, but there’s no chance he was headed for the injury regardless? 

I'm just saying that despite what I view as an overabundance of caution one of the top prospects got injured. 

You can't keep them from getting hurt.

 

[Il BuonO]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm just saying that despite what I view as an overabundance of caution one of the top prospects got injured. 

You can't keep them from getting hurt.

That’s right, you can’t. And I’m just saying there is nothing to show that limiting innings for guys, many of whom had a year of doing nothing, helps to prevent injury. 

Gray Rod had 94 IP in 2019 and 103 over two leagues this year. Why no decrease in his innings?

[Frobby]

4 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

That’s right, you can’t. And I’m just saying there is nothing to show that limiting innings for guys, many of whom had a year of doing nothing, helps to prevent injury. 

Gray Rod had 94 IP in 2019 and 103 over two leagues this year. Why no decrease in his innings?

Generally, pitchers throw more innings at 21 than they do at 19.   Unless they’re Hunter Harvey or Dylan Bundy.   

I’m not going to spend more time debating this since I personally don’t know what information the O’s or other teams relied upon to establish their pitch/innings limits this year.