Adley, Hall to Aberdeen

[NCRaven]

This may be the most "much ado about nothing" conversation I've seen here.  And we make much ado about nothing all the time.  Myself included.

[interloper]

It's just a scheduled off day you bunch of weirdos. 

Slowly ramping him up: Catching, DHing, off-day, then back to catching for probably 2 days, then DH, then I bet another off-day. Something like that. 

[ChuckS]

9 minutes ago, interloper said:

It's just a scheduled off day you bunch of weirdos. 

Slowly ramping him up: Catching, DHing, off-day, then back to catching for probably 2 days, then DH, then I bet another off-day. Something like that. 

Haven't they been ramping him up for a month down in Sarasota?  This seems a highly unusual way to work a "healthy" player back into games.  

He's not coming off major surgery or anything like that.  I think it's important that he gets, at a minimum consistent at bats.  Something else is going on here.  I still think the injury is more serious than what has been reported or there are some next level service time manipulation games going on. 

[interloper]

Just now, ChuckS said:

Haven't they been ramping him up for a month down in Sarasota?  This seems a highly unusual way to work a "healthy" player back into games.  

He's not coming off major surgery or anything like that.  I think it's important that he gets, at a minimum consistent at bats.  Something else is going on here.  I still think the injury is more serious than what has been reported or there are some next level service time manipulation games going on. 

I didn't say we had to like it or agree with it, I'm just saying that's what they're doing. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, interloper said:

I didn't say we had to like it or agree with it, I'm just saying that's what they're doing. 

It might very well be.  We are all hoping this is the case.

However when he plays a partial game at Catcher, followed by a partial game at DH, followed by an off day.

And he has a very poor throw.

And the team has a history of obfuscation.

You can see why folks are concerned.

[ChuckS]

5 minutes ago, interloper said:

I didn't say we had to like it or agree with it, I'm just saying that's what they're doing. 

To be honest, none of us really know what they are doing.  You included. 

I'm usually on the side of giving the team and the people in charge the benefit of the doubt but there was nothing normal about Adley's injury situation from the start.  Like I've previously stated, a minor injury like a triceps strain should not result in someone immediately being shutdown for an extended period of time.  There is usually a day to day evaluation before that happens. 

My best guess is that his injury is potentially more serious than we know.  

[interloper]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It might very well be.  We are all hoping this is the case.

However when he plays a partial game at Catcher, followed by a partial game at DH, followed by an off day.

And he has a very poor throw.

And the team has a history of obfuscation.

You can see why folks are concerned.

I can see it, yeah. I just think it fits with everything they're doing. Ticking boxes. I guess we'll just have to see if he's back in the lineup tonight. If not, then yeah that would be bad. 

[Tony-OH]

5 minutes ago, interloper said:

I didn't say we had to like it or agree with it, I'm just saying that's what they're doing. 

You're saying that's your OPINION of what they are doing. We know the Orioles are ultra conservative when rehabbing players, but play a few innings at catcher make a bad throw, get pulled, DH the next day, then not play at all on day three seems a pretty strange way to rehab a guy.

You very well could be right, but we'll find out for sure tonight when the lineups come out. 

If Rutschman is not catching DL Hall in Aberdeen, then something happened. 

[Just Regular]

There is some whistling by the graveyard in this observation, but it is conceivable the Catcher-DH-Day Off was the BLUEPRINT for the entire Aberdeen week.

Not that we'll ever know.

[interloper]

14 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

You're saying that's your OPINION of what they are doing. We know the Orioles are ultra conservative when rehabbing players, but play a few innings at catcher make a bad throw, get pulled, DH the next day, then not play at all on day three seems a pretty strange way to rehab a guy.

You very well could be right, but we'll find out for sure tonight when the lineups come out. 

If Rutschman is not catching DL Hall in Aberdeen, then something happened. 

Yes, of course my opinion. But why would they even DH him if they had even a whiff of injury setback? 

Like @Just Regularput it, I think this was the blueprint the whole time. We'll find out soon enough. 

[RZNJ]

I keep trying to come up with a theory that doesn't include his arm.  Maybe a second, minor injury, occurred during running out a ball or during an AB but it doesn't add up.   He wouldn't have DH'd the 2nd night if he strained a quad or hamstring.    2+2 seems like he tweaked something in that arm again.  I can see not having him catch 2 nights in a row but there is absolutely no way he gets the 3rd night completely off unless SOMETHING happened.   There is a small chance it is not related to the original injury.   A very small chance but I'm hoping.

[Tony-OH]

3 minutes ago, interloper said:

Yes, of course my opinion. But why would they even DH him if they had even a whiff of injury setback? 

Like @Just Regularput it, I think this was the blueprint the whole time. 

Could be because I can put nothing past this ultra conservative organization when it comes to rehabbing and allowing players to play in games. It just sounds like the most ridiculous rehab plan ever, but we are talking the Orioles here. He could have very easily played 1B last night and then caught tonight with Hall on the mound. The kid needs to play to get ready.

[RZNJ]

3 minutes ago, interloper said:

Yes, of course my opinion. But why would they even DH him if they had even a whiff of injury setback? 

Like @Just Regularput it, I think this was the blueprint the whole time. We'll find out soon enough. 

 

3 minutes ago, interloper said:

Yes, of course my opinion. But why would they even DH him if they had even a whiff of injury setback? 

Like @Just Regularput it, I think this was the blueprint the whole time. We'll find out soon enough. 

If he felt something in his tricep, they may have thought that batting would not seriously aggravate it but may have had second thoughts or he may have said it was bothering him even during at bats on the 2nd night and that's why he came out and didn't appear in the next game.  Makes sense to me.

[ChuckS]

13 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

 

If he felt something in his tricep, they may have thought that batting would not seriously aggravate it but may have had second thoughts or he may have said it was bothering him even during at bats on the 2nd night and that's why he came out and didn't appear in the next game.  Makes sense to me.

If he felt something in his tricep then he is not healthy and this is a more serious injury.  

All signs point to this being a more serious injury from the start, possibly involving his shoulder or elbow. 

[waroriole]

17 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

I keep trying to come up with a theory that doesn't include his arm.  Maybe a second, minor injury, occurred during running out a ball or during an AB but it doesn't add up.   He wouldn't have DH'd the 2nd night if he strained a quad or hamstring.    2+2 seems like he tweaked something in that arm again.  I can see not having him catch 2 nights in a row but there is absolutely no way he gets the 3rd night completely off unless SOMETHING happened.   There is a small chance it is not related to the original injury.   A very small chance but I'm hoping.

Did I miss something? Is he not in the lineup tonight?