Jump to content

2022 Ongoing Lineup Thread


OsFanSinceThe80s

Recommended Posts

8 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Can’t sit our two OBP machines in the same game. The rest of our lineup is too similar. Hays needs to pick stuff up. He’s hurting the team. 

This is why I wouldn’t mind trading Mountcastle or Hays for the right trade package. Their hack at everything approach is great when they’re hitting well.

When they’re cold they are just about useless on offense. Rutschman and Vavra can still contribute even if they are slumping. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Elias just needs to take the decision-making out of Hyde's hands. Send Nevin down, DFA Odor, DFA Phillips, and bring up Stowers, Gunnar, and Westburg.

Platoon Stowers and McKenna in RF, use Santander at DH/1B, Vavra takes over at 2B (and he can platoon with Westburg if needed), Gunnar at 3B, and make Urias and Westburg the super-utility infielders. Our offense will take a huge step up, even if each of those prospects has an adjustment period.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 minutes ago, Brooks The Great said:

Elias just needs to take the decision-making out of Hyde's hands. Send Nevin down, DFA Odor, DFA Phillips, and bring up Stowers, Gunnar, and Westburg.

Platoon Stowers and McKenna in RF, use Santander at DH/1B, Vavra takes over at 2B (and he can platoon with Westburg if needed), Gunnar at 3B, and make Urias and Westburg the super-utility infielders. Our offense will take a huge step up, even if each of those prospects has an adjustment period.

I don't think Hyde has much input in to the roster makeup and that's all Elias on who stays and goes. Even with the lineup and pitching usage, I wouldn't be surprised if Sig and the analytics team had input into the decisions made. 

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

If we’re going to rest so many vital players in the same game then we should rotate hitters onto the roster from AAA if the bullpen is rested. If we’re facing a RH SP we could go with Stowers or even DJ Stewart for a game. 
 

The SPs just build so much momentum versus those lineups. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It is strange how often Hyde seems to be resting guys.  I guess that is just part of giving guys looks and this still being an evaluation year for some guys.  Those years when we were winning under Buck it was like you could set your watch to the same lineup card everyday based on whether we were facing a righty or lefty.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

21 hours ago, interloper said:

These getaway day Buck lineups are killing me man. But no Phillips, so that's nice. 

3 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

No more Dave Tembley Sunday lineups. 

1 hour ago, RVAOsFan said:

It is strange how often Hyde seems to be resting guys.  I guess that is just part of giving guys looks and this still being an evaluation year for some guys.  Those years when we were winning under Buck it was like you could set your watch to the same lineup card everyday based on whether we were facing a righty or lefty.

So Buck did it, Trembley did it, and also Buck never did it! 

I think the issue isn't resting guys too much. Not many players top 150 games on any team. It's that we have a few backups (Nevin, Chirinos, Phillips) that are really bad. 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Spy Fox said:

So Buck did it, Trembley did it, and also Buck never did it! 

I think the issue isn't resting guys too much. Not many players top 150 games on any team. It's that we have a few backups (Nevin, Chirinos, Phillips) that are really bad. 

I doubt there’s much to be done about Chirinos, but I have to believe that Henderson and Stowers would be huge upgrades over Nevin and Phillips.  Make Vavra the starting second baseman and Odor a late inning LH pinch hitter if you don’t want to release him.  Now you have a much more competitive lineup.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I don't think Hyde has much input in to the roster makeup and that's all Elias on who stays and goes. Even with the lineup and pitching usage, I wouldn't be surprised if Sig and the analytics team had input into the decisions made. 

All I was saying is that Hyde writes the lineups. Of course Elias decides who stays or goes - that was the whole point of my post. I want Elias to take Hyde's favoritism towards Odor and Nevin out of Hyde's hands.

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

26 minutes ago, Brooks The Great said:

All I was saying is that Hyde writes the lineups. Of course Elias decides who stays or goes - that was the whole point of my post. I want Elias to take Hyde's favoritism towards Odor and Nevin out of Hyde's hands.

I think Elias wants all the prospects down for service time reasons. That’s not Hyde.  I also think Elias and Co. might be dictating some sort of “load management” for this group of players. They already said winning this year wasn’t likely, so I doubt Elias does want someone getting hurt from playing without rest. 
 

Long story short, I think Elias does have a hand in the lineup process. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

  • Posts

    • Is that true? I don't think that it is. I think baseball and other sports are similar in this respect. I picked a random NHL player... literally the first one I stumbled on, Luc Robitalle. He played 19 years in the NHL. Had a peak goal scoring season of 63, and also had seasons of 23, 15, 11, 30. Heung-min Son is a poplar Premier League soccer player, a forward, for Tottenham Hotspur. In his nine years with the club he's scored totals including 4, 14, 12, 11, 23, and 10 goals. Wayne Rooney was a regular starter in the Premier League from 2002-2018 and had goals scored totals anywhere from six to 27, including consecutive years in his prime of 27, 11, 11, 26. In the space of eight years Wilt Chamberlain had season average scoring marks of anywhere from 24 to 50 points per game. In 1981 John Riggins played in 15 NFL games, rushed 194 times for 714 yards and 13 TDs. In 1983 he played in 15 games and rushed 375 times for 1347 yards and 24 touchdowns.
    • It's all good... and good reply. 
    • Mejdal was interviewed during the TV broadcast... maybe two weeks ago. He repeated his preference right at the end of the interview (IIRC, from the stands or field). 
    • I think we need to be careful about conflating BABIP and luck.  All batted balls are not created equal.  Not even all balls with the same EV and launch angle are equal.   
    • You said it works out less often. I agree that is what the historical data said in a study many years ago. It is a reason to be cautious. I would add that Gunnar is an exception as well. There are a long list of 17 year talents who do not develop. For me, it has more to do with which team drafts them, than age at graduation. Things are changing, I think. I read an article some months ago about development and it talked about the age factors of high school kids. It was in depth about age, confidence, physical maturation and all that. It talked about high level travel ball, year round development and training, and how modern data have helped evaluate the players. I believe it was the opinion of the author, so I suppose it is anecdotal.  Many talented kids are 19 at graduation, and Florida and Texas have it quite often. When they go to college, they become draft eligible sophomores. There are many examples of players in that demographic finding success. I have no idea where that article was, sorry. I read a lot about these kinds of things from many sources as a former youth coach and the parent of a 13 year old pitcher/player. I am sure someone will ask for a link. Take it for what it is. Not trying to be argumentative, or contrary. Just adding to the discussion, Greg. 
    • I’ll give it a think and see if I can convince Sig. 😉
    • You’re learning.   Just say really negative stuff about the guys who aren’t doing well.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...