Shintaro Fujinami

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, DirtyBird said:

If he needs a clean inning, what value does he bring? 

One Easton Lucas.

[btdart20]

20 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

Grayson couldn’t throw anything besides a fastball close to the plate, and was at 26 pitches for the inning - his second high pitch inning for the game.

That's certainly a factor in pulling him.  But I don't think he was gassed.  The lack of secondary command is the key factor.  His FB wasn't exactly on point either though, he just trusted it most.  (For those last two pitches to Vlad, I hoped he'd throw his changeup or curve.  But think he only threw them for strikes a handful of times last night.)

[sportsfan8703]

It’s a good thing, and a bad thing, but we’re at the point now where our SPs are better options than any reliever outside of Bautista. We also play a ton of close games. 

Lots of blame will go on Fuji and Mateo today, but what about the offense that was held to run 1 run?  Can’t bash McKenna, because Cowser has struggled so much. 

[Moose Milligan]

41 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

So what?

When he throws 24 in the 4th and is at 26 for the inning, it doesn’t really matter that he only threw 8 in the 1st.

He was still hitting 100 too. 

[DirtyBird]

2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

He was still hitting 100 too. 

Yep - center cut fastballs. Everything else was a ball as soon as it left his hand.

[Moose Milligan]

Just now, DirtyBird said:

Yep - center cut fastballs. Everything else was a ball as soon as it left his hand.

Ok. 

[Moose Milligan]

1 minute ago, DirtyBird said:

Yep - center cut fastballs. Everything else was a ball as soon as it left his hand.

Still not sure what you’re arguing about. He can locate a fastball and was still doing so as he got close to 100 pitches. 
 

Fuji was locating his fastball out of the zone and in the bodies of the Toronto Blue Jays. 
 

There’s really no debate here. 

[Sports Guy]

Interesting that he wasn’t commanding anything last night but he threw over 65% of his pitches for strikes and had a swingstr% of about 25%. 
 

I must have been watching a different game.

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

Still not sure what you’re arguing about. He can locate a fastball and was still doing so as he got close to 100 pitches. 
 

Fuji was locating his fastball out of the zone and in the bodies of the Toronto Blue Jays. 
 

There’s really no debate here. 

He’s arguing that young players aren’t good. It’s his schtick. It’s ignorant, dumb and lazy but it’s what he does.

 

[DirtyBird]

5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Interesting that he wasn’t commanding anything last night but he threw over 65% of his pitches for strikes and had a swingstr% of about 25%. 
 

I must have been watching a different game.

We are talking about the 6th inning and his last two batters, dumbass

[DirtyBird]

8 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Still not sure what you’re arguing about. He can locate a fastball and was still doing so as he got close to 100 pitches. 
 

Fuji was locating his fastball out of the zone and in the bodies of the Toronto Blue Jays. 
 

There’s really no debate here. 

Correct. If you can read the future and see that Fuji was going to throw like a low A prospect with a heater that he has no control of, leaving Grayson in would have been the better option.

[webbrick2010]

Why not give Nick Vespi a look?

[dystopia]

Bottom line is if Fuji does his job, or Hyde brings in someone who does the job, we’re not debating whether it was the right decision to pull Grayson. 

[Sports Guy]

2 minutes ago, dystopia said:

Bottom line is if Fuji does his job, or Hyde brings in someone who does the job, we’re not debating whether it was the right decision to pull Grayson. 

Sure you could debate it. You don’t only argue something with the benefit of hindsight.

Grayson was throwing the ball very well. Vlad couldn’t get around on his fastball, which is why he kept throwing them. He was reading the bat.

Springer had just broken an 0-35 with a blooper. Having GRod face him would have been fine.

But 2 long at bats with Belt and Vlad caused the pitch count to rise and they decided to save the bullets for another day.

[dystopia]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

Sure you could debate it. You don’t only argue something with the benefit of hindsight.

Grayson was throwing the ball very well. Vlad couldn’t get around on his fastball, which is why he kept throwing them. He was reading the bat.

Springer had just broken an 0-35 with a blooper. Having GRod face him would have been fine.

But 2 long at bats with Belt and Vlad caused the pitch count to rise and they decided to save the bullets for another day.

I’m saying I don’t think it was a clear cut decision and there’s a good argument for both pulling him and leaving him in. If Fuji does his job I don’t think there’s much discussion about it afterwards.