Jump to content

Appears Grayson pitched his way to AAA to start the year

Tony-OH

By Tony-OH
in Orioles Talk

 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 213
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Days

Popular Posts

Sports Guy
Sports Guy

I find myself defending Elias in this decision much more than I thought I would. Twitter is going nuts over this and Elias is getting slammed because people just point to what GRod did pre injury

Can_of_corn
Can_of_corn

But it wasn't true. Adley finished his rehab last season (was healthy) and he was kept in the minors. Or was he still hurt when he finished rehab? That was the timing last year.  

Frobby
Frobby

They had much stronger springs than Grayson.  Bradish was very good in all but one start.   Wells has been very good his last two or three times out.   Grayson wasn’t pitching well at all, and I’m not

Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Hank Scorpio said:

To me Westburg not making the team is a sign that the organizational depth is strong and they couldn't swing a deal for Mateo or Urias this winter that satisfied them.

Alternatively I think maybe he's a guy that they utilize @ the deadline to trade and supplement the existing roster if they're in the mix. 

So it's NOT a true meritocracy?

 

Most of us realized that when Odor made the team last year.  Nice to see you are aboard now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Hank Scorpio Hangout Grand Counsel

Hank Scorpio

Posted
Posted
Just now, Can_of_corn said:

So it's NOT a true meritocracy?

 

Most of us realized that when Odor made the team last year.  Nice to see you are aboard now.

It's good to have more guys that you can stuff onto a 26 man roster in your organization to turn to when things happen. I do believe that if Rodriguez performed in spring training like they expected him to, he would be on the team. 

A true meritocracy is probably a false hope in professional sports. I would hope that if Elias, Sig & Eve knew how Westburg would perform vs. major league pitching in spring training they would have skipped Frazier.

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
LookinUp Hangout Grand Counsel

LookinUp

Posted
Posted
19 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'd rather the team I root for do the right thing.  Pretty much everyone is these days.

I know I'd not like to be treated that way by an employer.

Is the "right thing" to put the popular kid on the team even though he's not as good as the other kids (right now)?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
6 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

Is the "right thing" to put the popular kid on the team even though he's not as good as the other kids (right now)?

It's fewer than 20 Innings, that doesn't prove anything.  He should have been up last year.  He's been earning this chance since 2018.

At least one of his fellow prospects noticed and said something.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

Frobby

Posted
Posted
Just now, Can_of_corn said:

It's fewer than 20 Innings, that doesn't prove anything.  He should have been up last year.  He's been earning this chance since 2018.

At least one of his fellow prospects noticed and said something.

It proves plenty, if you’ve actually watched him pitch.  It’s not just about numbers.  He hasn’t been sharp at all and doesn’t give the team the best chance to win right now.  It’s that simple.  

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Frobby Hangout Grand Counsel

Frobby

Posted
Posted
8 minutes ago, Ripken said:

He absolutely should have been up last May before the injury.  That said, he sucked this spring so I've no problem with him paying for that.  I just seriously hope he uses this as motivation to dominate down there.

I don’t think motivation is the issue.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Ripken Hangout Veteran Council

Ripken

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Frobby said:

I don’t think motivation is the issue.  

Nor do I, but this was unexpected and there's been lots of chatter about it.  They discussed it on MLB Network, too.  We know the kid is a hard worker and I'm hoping he quickly fixes whatever is wrong.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
baltfan Hangout Grand Counsel

baltfan

Posted
Posted
17 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's fewer than 20 Innings, that doesn't prove anything.  He should have been up last year.  He's been earning this chance since 2018.

At least one of his fellow prospects noticed and said something.

There is something to be said for building up a guy's confidence in the minors.  They clearly wanted him up as they said it all winter.  There is little reason to believe that this is anything but them wanting what they think is best for the team at the moment.  

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

Can_of_corn

Posted
Posted
8 minutes ago, baltfan said:

There is something to be said for building up a guy's confidence in the minors.  They clearly wanted him up as they said it all winter.  There is little reason to believe that this is anything but them wanting what they think is best for the team at the moment.  

I don't know.

I think my confidence would take more of a hit getting sent down than I would get a bump beating a bunch of guys I beat least year.

And if there is little reason to believe it is anything else why did folks that aren't me call this move before spring training even started?

Why are established folks in the media questioning the move?

It is potentially very advantageous financially for the O's to send him down this spring.  Are you disputing that?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Posts

    • DirtyBird
      Anthony Santander 2024

      By DirtyBird · Posted

      the question isn’t about being able to make the offers, it’s about being awarded compensatory picks for more than one.
    • Rbiggs2525
      2024 Ongoing Lineup Thread

      By Rbiggs2525 · Posted

      I don’t consider a 4 o’clock game a night game. He also caught Wednesday night and Thursday day this week. Moral of the story is McCann will start 4 games in 7 days because he is Burnes preferred catcher.
    • Sydnor
      Anthony Santander 2024

      By Sydnor · Posted

      It is absolutely possible. In 2022, the Mets gave a QO to Bassitt, Nikki, and DeGrom. The Red Sox gave a QO to Boegarts and Eovaldi. The Yankees gave a QO to Judge and Rizzo. The Dodgers gave a QO to Turner and Anderson. I know that it seems to be a foregone conclusion that Santander will not be on the team after this season, and while I generally agree that it is more probable than not that he will not be re-signed, I do think there is a non-zero chance that he will be retained. I think he is the most likely of Mullins, Hays, and himself to be retained, even if it is a small chance. The team has told us how they feel about his bat because he plays essentially everyday, and I have heard Kostka say that they value his clubhouse presence.
    • Philip
      Anthony Santander 2024

      By Philip · Posted

      Santander won’t get a QO, and if he did, he would accept. His defense is declining and we have too many capable youngsters who should replace him effectively. But to your question, I don’t know if there’s a limit, but I doubt it.
    • OriolesMagic83
      The 2024 Trade Deadline

      By OriolesMagic83 · Posted

      O's will probably have to wait till July for a trade because there are so many more buyers than sellers.  I think teams like the Blue Jays, Rays Tigers and Mets are likely to be sellers but they are still in the race although not very good teams as constituted. 
    • Philip
      The 2024 Trade Deadline

      By Philip · Posted

      No Scott. He’s way too undependable. We need someone who WON’T enter a game and walk folks like he’s promoting a healthy lifestyle. He’s been a lot bette4 this season, but he’s too undependable, and we already have too many of those. No Flaherty either. That’s like taking your GF back after she cheated on you.
    • 24fps
      The 2024 Trade Deadline

      By 24fps · Posted

      The team's continued success has really put Elias on the spot IMO and I don't see a Flaherty type as an option anymore.  My money is on a sensible trade that comes at a price high enough that most of us here, including myself, won't like, but a premium comes with having bad luck and that's where the O's are at the moment.

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...