Unswept

[Filmstudy]

10 minutes ago, Filmstudy said:

It's actually the 1906-09 Cubs and it came from the Orioles game notes (they say they are quoting Elias).  Link:

https://img.mlbstatic.com/mlb-images/image/upload/mlb/ghot6q9irbon7cx13wbg.pdf

I just verified the calendar length of the streak from 5/31/06 through 4/29/09.  I did not count the number of series or games in each, but that's the span.

 

The Cubs lost the 1906 WS 4-2, but with home games alternating, so no sweep there.  They won the WS in 1907 (4-0-1) and 1908 (4-1) so there was not some sort of break in the postseason, which may or may not have been included in the Elias research.

One issue with all of this is definitions, particularly as they apply to games and the postseason, but whether regular season or including post season, the Cubs streak appears legit.

[Frobby]

Among other things, last night’s game against Boston means that the Orioles played the entire 2023 regular season without getting swept in a series of 2 games or more.  Yet another very impressive accomplishment for this team.  

[Billy F-Face3]

2 hours ago, Frobby said:

Among other things, last night’s game against Boston means that the Orioles played the entire 2023 regular season without getting swept in a series of 2 games or more.  Yet another very impressive accomplishment for this team.  

Shhh...  It's not over yet. We don't want to get swept at all in the post season either. Keep that streak going all the way through opening day 2024 and beyond.

[Frobby]

3 hours ago, Billy F-Face3 said:

Shhh...  It's not over yet. We don't want to get swept at all in the post season either. Keep that streak going all the way through opening day 2024 and beyond.

There’s a reason why I wrote “regular season.”

[25 Nuggets]

This has now attained legendary status because of Adley Rutschman.

The Orioles were swept by Detroit May 13-15, 2022.

They were almost swept by New York May 16-19 but won the last game.

Adley is called up May 21.

Have not been swept since.

It's incredible.

[Just Regular]

Registering an early wish to MASN content creators to refrain from touting this "regular season" coincidence during 2024.

The ballclub has enough wonderful stuff its PR spinners need not pump up fluff.

[survivedc]

1 hour ago, Just Regular said:

Registering an early wish to MASN content creators to refrain from touting this "regular season" coincidence during 2024.

The ballclub has enough wonderful stuff its PR spinners need not pump up fluff.

All depends on how the other record holders are judged, IMO. If theirs only count the regular season I sure want to keep hearing about it.

[ChosenOne21]

6 hours ago, survivedc said:

All depends on how the other record holders are judged, IMO. If theirs only count the regular season I sure want to keep hearing about it.

Playoffs don't count for any records/streaks as far as I know.

[drdelaware]

16 minutes ago, ChosenOne21 said:

Playoffs don't count for any records/streaks as far as I know.

 No but I would have rather seen them swept once or twice in the regular season than at the worst possible time.  They should stop talking about it.  It’s about as meaningful as all that AL East Division Championship swag people wasted their money on.

Time to move on to 2024.

[glenn__davis]

I said elsewhere on here earlier in the season that I almost wanted that streak to end, because it would be a real kick in the goods to go through the whole season and then get swept in the playoffs.  It happened and was indeed a real kick in the goods.

[Filmstudy]

The Orioles have gone 103 consecutive RS series without being swept, spanning 322 games including series of:

2 G: 8 times

3 G: 75

4 G: 19

5 G: 1

If the games were decided by coin flip, the odds of this occurring randomly would be approximately 1 in 785,670.

In addition, the Orioles have now staved off a sweep in a regular-season series finale 13 times:

5/19/22 NYY 9-6

6/22/22 Was 7-0

7/3/22 Min 3-1

9/18/22 Tor 5-4

9/21/22 Det 8-1

5/28/23 Tex 3-2

6/8/23 Mil 6-3

6/18/23 ChC 6-3

7/2/23 Min 2-1

7/19/23 LAD 8-5

8/10/23 Hou 5-4

4/14/24 Mil 6-4

5/8/24 Was 7-6

It's amazing that they've gone 13-0 in such games, but it might be even more impressive (qualitatively, because the assumptions of defining a non-coin-flip model are truly daunting) that they've only gone to a win-or-be-swept finale 13 times when expectation by coin flip would be 25.1875.

[dystopia]

3 hours ago, Filmstudy said:

The Orioles have gone 103 consecutive RS series without being swept, spanning 322 games including series of:

2 G: 8 times

3 G: 75

4 G: 19

5 G: 1

If the games were decided by coin flip, the odds of this occurring randomly would be approximately 1 in 785,670.

In addition, the Orioles have now staved off a sweep in a regular-season series finale 13 times:

5/19/22 NYY 9-6

6/22/22 Was 7-0

7/3/22 Min 3-1

9/18/22 Tor 5-4

9/21/22 Det 8-1

5/28/23 Tex 3-2

6/8/23 Mil 6-3

6/18/23 ChC 6-3

7/2/23 Min 2-1

7/19/23 LAD 8-5

8/10/23 Hou 5-4

4/14/24 Mil 6-4

5/8/24 Was 7-6

It's amazing that they've gone 13-0 in such games, but it might be even more impressive (qualitatively, because the assumptions of defining a non-coin-flip model are truly daunting) that they've only gone to a win-or-be-swept finale 13 times when expectation by coin flip would be 25.1875.

What's the point of the coin-flip stuff in this post? Baseball isn't decided by a coin flip.

[IPlayGM]

1 minute ago, dystopia said:

What's the point of the coin-flip stuff in this post? Baseball isn't decided by a coin flip.

That’s the experimental probability, which just gives a frame of reference.

[ChosenOne21]

The Orioles are way better than 50/50 to win a game. If they had a roughly .500 record over the unswept streak, your numbers would be valid. It's still impressive and unlikely they'd do what they did, but the "coin flip" should be more like 67/33 for these calculations.

Edited May 9 by ChosenOne21

[Rbiggs2525]

13 minutes ago, ChosenOne21 said:

The Orioles are way better than 50/50 to win a game. If they had a roughly .500 record over the unswept streak, your numbers would be valid. It's still impressive and unlikely they'd do what they did, but the "coin flip" should be more like 67/33 for these calculations.

That is correct. Win probability was 60-65 percent both games against the Nats. I’m happy to say at least it wasn’t the Nats ending the streak.