JD Martinez

[Sports Guy]

6 minutes ago, Baseball fandom said:

I mean I agree of course I don't want them to blow their wad stupidly I 1000 percent agree there but I want a commitment that they will strike when  the iron is hot. For example if another Blake Snell situation happens again this year and clearly he is not getting the money nowhere near what people thought in the beginning of FA jump on that. My point is in no way should things be like they were with JA there should be room for payroll growth with such a young team. 

And zero people have disagreed with that or said any different despite whatever bs narrative you want to try to push.

That said, there are definitely people who just want to see a big number for the payroll “because we can”.

There isn’t much thought or understanding behind it…just a need to see a 9 figure number.

Edited 2 hours ago by Sports Guy

[Baseball fandom]

Just now, Sports Guy said:

And zero people have disagreed with that or said any different despite whatever bs narrative you want to try to push.

BYou be happy with payroll at  90 million. Your BS was  up a long time ago. 

[Sports Guy]

16 minutes ago, Baseball fandom said:

BYou be happy with payroll at  90 million. Your BS was  up a long time ago. 

You should really try to read. It will make you less slow.

[forphase1]

Who really cares what the payroll is?  And if you do,  why?  If we hadn't been swept out of the playoffs would we even be arguing this?  In the end the amount the Os pay isn't the issue or problem.  It's how the team performs on the field.  Sure we all know that payroll and wins have a fairly strong correlation to each other,  but it isn't exact or perfect at all.   Should we increase payroll?  Sure,  provided you makes the team better.  But increasing the payroll while not improving the team by doing so seems goofy.  

Sign a #1 or #2, absolutely.   Move on from the platoon at 1st with a guy who can take up one roster spot and hit both rhp and lhp,  like Walker?  Sign me up.  Sign an impact OF and split at bats between Mullins, Cowser, Kjerstad and him?  Sounds good to me.   Replace Mountcastle with just a more expensive version of the same?  What's the point?  Sign an expensive pitcher to replace Povich with the same results?  Why,  other then a depth move?  I'm all for signing free agents and spending money,  just do it wisely and don't do it just to say we signed someone.   Actually improve the team or stand pat.  Making moves just to make moves is how you end up with Rogers types.

Payroll matters, yeah.   But winning matters more.   If we can win with a 100M payroll, fine.   If it needs to be 200M to win,  that's fine with me too.  Just win games,  and let the window we have stay open as long as possible... and most importantly win the WS for the first time since 1983.  

[Can_of_corn]

9 minutes ago, forphase1 said:

Who really cares what the payroll is?  And if you do,  why?  If we hadn't been swept out of the playoffs would we even be arguing this?  In the end the amount the Os pay isn't the issue or problem.  It's how the team performs on the field.  Sure we all know that payroll and wins have a fairly strong correlation to each other,  but it isn't exact or perfect at all.   Should we increase payroll?  Sure,  provided you makes the team better.  But increasing the payroll while not improving the team by doing so seems goofy.  

Sign a #1 or #2, absolutely.   Move on from the platoon at 1st with a guy who can take up one roster spot and hit both rhp and lhp,  like Walker?  Sign me up.  Sign an impact OF and split at bats between Mullins, Cowser, Kjerstad and him?  Sounds good to me.   Replace Mountcastle with just a more expensive version of the same?  What's the point?  Sign an expensive pitcher to replace Povich with the same results?  Why,  other then a depth move?  I'm all for signing free agents and spending money,  just do it wisely and don't do it just to say we signed someone.   Actually improve the team or stand pat.  Making moves just to make moves is how you end up with Rogers types.

Payroll matters, yeah.   But winning matters more.   If we can win with a 100M payroll, fine.   If it needs to be 200M to win,  that's fine with me too.  Just win games,  and let the window we have stay open as long as possible... and most importantly win the WS for the first time since 1983.  

I think for almost all owners payroll matters more than winning.

Even teams like the Yankees are careful with how they go into penalty.

[Sanity Check]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

You should really try to read. It will make you less slow.

We all know you think you're passionate about your team and your ideas. but the way you continually insult people whose ideas you don't agree with, or who disagree with you, is incredibly childish.  

It's a form of cyber-bullying.   I'd like to think you're better than that, and wonder why more people don't call you out on it.  Maybe they know it won't change anything?

Is it not possible to disagree without having to insult either the person or their thoughts?  I know it's hard to self-reflect and realize that you constantly do this, and maybe make a change for the better, but I kind of expect some insults are now headed my way for trying to make this place a bit less hostile.

 

[Sports Guy]

35 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

We all know you think you're passionate about your team and your ideas. but the way you continually insult people whose ideas you don't agree with, or who disagree with you, is incredibly childish.  

It's a form of cyber-bullying.   I'd like to think you're better than that, and wonder why more people don't call you out on it.  Maybe they know it won't change anything?

Is it not possible to disagree without having to insult either the person or their thoughts?  I know it's hard to self-reflect and realize that you constantly do this, and maybe make a change for the better, but I kind of expect some insults are now headed my way for trying to make this place a bit less hostile.

 

He’s the one being combative…I’m just giving it back to him.