Gunnar Henderson 2024

[Tony-OH]

On 7/5/2024 at 11:54 AM, RVAOsFan said:

This is a great read. Love this young group of men our Orioles have drafted, developed and are winning with. 

Nice to see Gunnar reward his former AAA manager. I think it shows how much the players respect Buck.

[Sports Guy]

On 7/5/2024 at 11:54 AM, RVAOsFan said:

This is a great read. Love this young group of men our Orioles have drafted, developed and are winning with. 

If only they weren’t so racist!  

[Malike]

If Gunnar had a LA of about 15 vs 9 he'd probably be dusting Judge in HRs and walking away with the MVP. It's crazy how good he is even with a less than awesome launch angle.

[Frobby]

6 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

Nice to see Gunnar reward his former AAA manager. I think it shows how much the players respect Buck.

I was very impressed with that move.   And Gunnar only played a couple of months in Norfolk under Buck.

[Frobby]

With that wild throw in the Oakland game, I thought this would be a good time to see what Gunnar's defensive numbers are looking like.   He's now played significantly more games at SS this year (87 starts) than he did last year (64).   Here's some 2024 numbers, with 2023 in parentheses.   Also, I've added the current stats of some other AL shortstops:

Rtot: +5 (10) -- Pena +8, Neto +6, Seager +4, Rocchio +3, Volpe +2, Correa +1, Witt 0

Rdrs: +4 (10) -- Neto +9, Rocchio +6, Volpe +3, Witt +3, Seager +3, Pena +1, Correa -1

OAA: +7 (0) -- Witt +13, Volpe +10, Correa +3, Seager +2, Rocchio +2, Pena +1, Neto -5

UZR: +5.5 (7.4) -- Rocchio +3.6, Volpe +1.8, Witt 0.8, Seager 0.2, Pena -0.2, Neto -0.3, Correa -1.7

Fielding Pct.: .970 (.969) -- Neto .983, Seager .980, Correa .980, Rocchio .980, Pena .978, Volpe .976, Witt .971

So, Gunnar ranks top 3 in Rtot, Rdrs, and OAA, and 1st in UZR.   The people who are ahead of him in one advanced stat are behind him in others.   Gunnar trails this field in fielding percentage but the advanced stats like him a lot.   That probably shows that Gunnar makes a lot of plays that other shortstops don't, but occasionally makes errors trying to pull off plays that other shortstops wouldn't try.   I can certainly think of a few plays in that category.

Overall, I'd say Gunnar is a Gold Glove contender, but there are several others in contention and you could look at these numbers a lot of ways depending what your preferred stat is.   If you are an OAA "true believer" you're probably going to prefer Witt or Volpe even if the three other advanced metrics prefer Gunnar to them.   If you are an old school fielding percentage guy, then Gunnar isn't really on the GG radar for you.   

Bottom line, there's still 72 games to play.   We'll see how they go.    

[Say O!]

20 minutes ago, Frobby said:

With that wild throw in the Oakland game, I thought this would be a good time to see what Gunnar's defensive numbers are looking like.   He's now played significantly more games at SS this year (87 starts) than he did last year (64).   Here's some 2024 numbers, with 2023 in parentheses.   Also, I've added the current stats of some other AL shortstops:

Rtot: +5 (10) -- Pena +8, Neto +6, Seager +4, Rocchio +3, Volpe +2, Correa +1, Witt 0

Rdrs: +4 (10) -- Neto +9, Rocchio +6, Volpe +3, Witt +3, Seager +3, Pena +1, Correa -1

OAA: +7 (0) -- Witt +13, Volpe +10, Correa +3, Seager +2, Rocchio +2, Pena +1, Neto -5

UZR: +5.5 (7.4) -- Rocchio +3.6, Volpe +1.8, Witt 0.8, Seager 0.2, Pena -0.2, Neto -0.3, Correa -1.7

Fielding Pct.: .970 (.969) -- Neto .983, Seager .980, Correa .980, Rocchio .980, Pena .978, Volpe .976, Witt .971

So, Gunnar ranks top 3 in Rtot, Rdrs, and OAA, and 1st in UZR.   The people who are ahead of him in one advanced stat are behind him in others.   Gunnar trails this field in fielding percentage but the advanced stats like him a lot.   That probably shows that Gunnar makes a lot of plays that other shortstops don't, but occasionally makes errors trying to pull off plays that other shortstops wouldn't try.   I can certainly think of a few plays in that category.

Overall, I'd say Gunnar is a Gold Glove contender, but there are several others in contention and you could look at these numbers a lot of ways depending what your preferred stat is.   If you are an OAA "true believer" you're probably going to prefer Witt or Volpe even if the three other advanced metrics prefer Gunnar to them.   If you are an old school fielding percentage guy, then Gunnar isn't really on the GG radar for you.   

Bottom line, there's still 72 games to play.   We'll see how they go.    

Thx for summarizing, Frobby. Gunnar has been spectacular on D this season for sure. Question — are the 2023 numbers for Gunnar full season (so incl time at 3B) or just at SS?

[Frobby]

Just now, Say O! said:

Thx for summarizing, Frobby. Gunnar has been spectacular on D this season for sure. Question — are the 2023 numbers for Gunnar full season (so incl time at 3B) or just at SS?

SS only.  

[Say O!]

6 minutes ago, Frobby said:

SS only.  

Thx.

Adding in the savant leaderboard for arm strength (2024 SS only) which is computed as the average of the players top 5% of throws.  Gunnar’s avg of 89.5mph ranks 5th while his max measured at 4th.

[Roll Tide]

Hopefully he never has a chance

[Malike]

[Ohfan67]

6 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Hopefully he never has a chance

Judge is such a jerk. 
 

[Roll Tide]

1 minute ago, Ohfan67 said:

Judge is such a jerk. 
 

Agreed but he’s a hell of a player

[Ohfan67]

1 minute ago, Roll Tide said:

Agreed but he’s a hell of a player

I was just joking. I think he’s a pretty good dude (but who really knows). 

[Frobby]

He’s fine.  Nice of him to say nice things about Gunnar.  

[Malike]

I hope Gunnar doesn't embarrass himself at the derby.