Colton Cowser 2024

[Warehouse]

On 9/3/2024 at 12:34 PM, Roy Firestone said:

Cowser with two strikes is hard to watch. I dont have the stats,but his strikeout rate with 2 strikes must be about 50% or more.Its almost a sure thing he strikes out with 2 strikes...

Player	Whiff% <2str	Whiff% 2str	Whiff% Δ	K% w/ 2str
Ryan O’Hearn	20.6	11.1	-9.5	27.1
Santander	21.0	16.7	-4.1	33.9
Cowser	29.2	32.0	+2.8	51.6
Westburg	30.4	26.7	-2.7	41.7
JRod	31.6	28.9	-2.7	46.5
Brent Rooker	33.2	34.5	+1.3	53.6
Luis Robert	36.4	35.4	-1.0	57.8
MLB	25.8	24.3	-1.5	42.1

[Sports Guy]

It’s almost as if he’s a rookie and not a finished product.

[Frobby]

8 hours ago, SemperFi said:

Is 10,000 plate appearances enough for you? 

Leverage at bats account for about 10% of at bats so I guess it's really around 1,000 plate appearances-that's a hell of a lot for a tidal pool.  For context there are roughly 60 in MLB history with 10,000 plate appearances.

Best Career Clutch Ratings Since 1972
Player	PA	Career	Per 650 PA
1. Mark Grace	9,290	+13.68	+0.96
2. Toby Harrah	8,337	+13.46	+1.05
3. Jason Kendall	5,958	+12.96	+1.41
4. Kent Hrbek	7,137	+12.83	+1.17
5. Matt Lawton	5,541	+12.10	+1.42
6. Darrell Evans	10,352	+11.81	+0.74
7. Scott Fletcher	5,976	+11.43	+1.24
8. Jeromy Burnitz	6,237	+11.26	+1.17
9. Kirby Puckett	7,831	+11.06	+0.92
10. Harold Baines	11,092	+10.73	+0.63
11. Tony Gwynn	10,232	+9.83	+0.62

Two questions:

1.  Where is this list published?

2. Are you sure that “Clutch Ratings” are measured in WAR?   I do not think they are.  More likely they are based on WPA and related metrics, which are not WAR-based.  

[Warehouse]

It is WPA based.

https://library.fangraphs.com/misc/clutch/
 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/all-about-clutch/
 

https://insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/article/clutch_skill_does_exist/
 

https://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=betweenthenumbers/ortiz/060405
 

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/38519/prospectus-feature-revised-look-clutch-hitting-part-2/
 

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/72ue29/clutch_hitting_is_real_but_its_not_what_you_think/

 

[SemperFi]

37 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Two questions:

1.  Where is this list published?

2. Are you sure that “Clutch Ratings” are measured in WAR?   I do not think they are.  More likely they are based on WPA and related metrics, which are not WAR-based.  

Hi Frobby,

I think it's a slide from Baseball Prospectus but I'll let you know later today when I have some time this afternoon.  

[EnochRoot]

21 minutes ago, SemperFi said:

Hi Frobby,

I think it's a slide from Baseball Prospectus but I'll let you know later today when I have some time this afternoon.  

File clutch under SSS. 

[interloper]

8 minutes ago, EnochRoot said:

File clutch under SSS. 

There is no need to downvote that post. Around here downvoting is strictly reserved for people who are trolling or being insulting or have wildly bad takes. You're new here, so I understand that people sort of think of it as reddit or a comments section of a website where a downvote has much less meaning/weight, but that's not how it works here. Just letting you know! Welcome to the board. 

Edited September 5 by interloper

[EnochRoot]

Just now, interloper said:

There is no need to downvote that post. Around here downvoting is strictly reserved for people who are trolling or being insulting or have wildly bad takes. You're new here, so I understand that people sort of think of it as reddit or a comments section of a website where a downvote has much less meaning/weight. 

I got an email that I received a permanent downvote for using the phraise GTFO. Whoops. Gonna get another one for that.

He’s using garbage statistics becase Cowser isn’t carrying a telephone pole uphill in a rainstorm as well as David Ortiz once did. It’s stupid, and this site should be better than that. 

[interloper]

1 minute ago, EnochRoot said:

I got an email that I received a permanent downvote for using the phraise GTFO. Whoops. Gonna get another one for that.

He’s using garbage statistics becase Cowser isn’t carrying a telephone pole uphill in a rainstorm as well as David Ortiz once did. It’s stupid, and this site should be better than that. 

Well you won't last long around here if that's going to be your vibe and downvoting everyone who disagrees with you. I was trying to be nice about it, too, but you took it pretty personally for some reason. 

[RZNJ]

19 minutes ago, interloper said:

There is no need to downvote that post. Around here downvoting is strictly reserved for people who are trolling or being insulting or have wildly bad takes. You're new here, so I understand that people sort of think of it as reddit or a comments section of a website where a downvote has much less meaning/weight, but that's not how it works here. Just letting you know! Welcome to the board. 

Where are the rules posted for downvoting?

[interloper]

3 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Where are the rules posted for downvoting?

I never said there were rules about it. I'm just saying it's not done that way around here. 

[RZNJ]

1 minute ago, interloper said:

I never said there were rules about it. I'm just saying it's not done that way around here. 

It is now.   

[interloper]

Just now, RZNJ said:

It is now.   

Apparently! Lol. 

Just saying, typically you don't see everyone downvoting at the first sign of disagreement around here. When that does happen, usually that person ends up just antagonizing people and they don't last long. 

Not saying he's not free to do it. 

[Can_of_corn]

The betting line doesn't reflect it but Austin Wells is coming up strong when it comes to Rookie campaigns.

He's got more rWAR (.1 less fWAR) in far fewer at bats.

 

 

[baltfan]

13 hours ago, EnochRoot said:

This is a Colton Cowser thread. He doesn’t have 10,000 plate appearances in his HS/collegiate/Pro career. 

If you’re arguing clutch as a relevant metric, well…good luck. I mean, look at that list. There’s some good hitters there, but that’s not exactly a snapshot of the game’s elite. 

Why do the most clutch hitters have to be the most elite hitters in general?