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52 minutes ago, Greg Pappas said:

He is a scary injury risk, no doubt.  He seems similar to Austin Hays... always hurt.  

Here's the full list of injuries Robert Jr. has suffered throughout his first five major league seasons:

Hand — Aug. 18, 2020
Illness — April 27, 2021
Hip — May 2, 2021
Groin — April 21, 2022
COVID-19 — May 24, 2022
Illness — July 15, 2022
Wrist — Aug. 12, 2022
Hand/Wrist — Sept. 15, 2022
Wrist — Sept. 24, 2022
Hamstring — April 29, 2023
Hip — May 23, 2023
Calf — July 10, 2023
Finger — Aug. 9 2023
Quad — Sept. 2, 2023
Knee — Sept. 24, 2023
Hip — April 5, 2024

The upside is immense, but parting with Holliday is highly unlikely, as it should be.  The White Sox may not get the return they want.  What I'd give up is a tough consideration.  Was thinking Kjerstad, but perhaps a more reasonable offer would be something akin to Beavers, McDermott, and Willems.

5 out of 13 after dropping illness designations which don’t count IMO, are to the hand, wrist, fingers. Is he a ball magnet? A Hammy, Calf, Quad, and knee all for a speed guy in 2023. Seems like the hip is recurring 2021, 2023, and 2024 is a concern.

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1 hour ago, Greg Pappas said:

He is a scary injury risk, no doubt.  He seems similar to Austin Hays... always hurt.  

Here's the full list of injuries Robert Jr. has suffered throughout his first five major league seasons:

Hand — Aug. 18, 2020
Illness — April 27, 2021
Hip — May 2, 2021
Groin — April 21, 2022
COVID-19 — May 24, 2022
Illness — July 15, 2022
Wrist — Aug. 12, 2022
Hand/Wrist — Sept. 15, 2022
Wrist — Sept. 24, 2022
Hamstring — April 29, 2023
Hip — May 23, 2023
Calf — July 10, 2023
Finger — Aug. 9 2023
Quad — Sept. 2, 2023
Knee — Sept. 24, 2023
Hip — April 5, 2024

The upside is immense, but parting with Holliday is highly unlikely, as it should be.  The White Sox may not get the return they want.  What I'd give up is a tough consideration.  Was thinking Kjerstad, but perhaps a more reasonable offer would be something akin to Beavers, McDermott, and Willems.

He makes Hays seems like the model of health.  I can't see the White Sox parting with him except for a huge price.  For Beavers, McDermott and Willems that seems like a more than fair trade but they would laugh at it. 

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Just now, OriolesMagic83 said:

He makes Hays seems like the model of health.  I can't see the White Sox parting with him except for a huge price.  For Beavers, McDermott and Willems that seems like a more than fair trade but they would laugh at it. 

I had posted Kjerstad straight up for Roberts, but felt spreading out an offer over multiple prospects may serve us better.  You may well be right about laughing at Beavers, McDermott and Willems.

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10 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

JLC’s beef is that Elias did nothing this offseason. Who knew that at the 1/4 pole that Hays and Mullins would be the worst two hitters on this team?

Um, not to pick on something to troll about, but this trend from 2023 second half was worrisome, and plain to see:

Mullins: .209    .249    .386

Hays: .228    .289    .378    

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War from 2021-2024

Cedric Mullins - 12.6
Luis Robert - 10.7

Even if we limit it to 2022-2024, it's Mullins 6.9 , Roberts 7.1. Why do we think this is some sort of massive upgrade worthy of the #1 prospect in baseball. I'd barely do it straight up considering it's almost a wash and it might mess up the clubhouse chemistry.
 

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