Poll - Would you trade McDermott for Scherzer straight up?

[Greg Pappas]

8 minutes ago, Allan Bryant said:

Eovaldi has higher WAR 1.7 to .50 than Schezer , he’s younger w/ vesting option for 2025 . Which I assume he would cost more than Scherzer .  Both are better suited as #3 starters ( postseason) than Kremer , Suárez & Irvin . Just my opinion 

Eovaldi has 80 IP, while Scherzer is at 10.1.  So, that's not a fair comp.  I'd be pleased to get either, though we will likely wait until Scherzer throws a couple more times before we feel more comfortable with him.

[Allan Bryant]

2 minutes ago, Greg Pappas said:

Eovaldi has 80 IP, while Scherzer is at 10.1.  So, that's not a fair comp.  I'd be pleased to get either, though we will likely wait until Scherzer throws a couple more times before we feel more comfortable with him.

Yeah I agree, we need see bit more of Scherzer before making offer .  But I don’t like Elias waiting until the very last minute like he done last year’s deadline .  

[sportsfan8703]

Another decent/good start for Scherzer. 6.1 IP 3 ER.

He’s shown he’s healthy. It might be McDermott and DeLeon/Baumeister now for him.  

[Rbiggs2525]

I picture Scherzer as purely a salary dump for Texas. They are up against it in terms of Luxury tax. I also see Scherzer as a start to start pitcher in terms of durability. Not willing to give up more than a AAAA guy and a lottery ticket prospect. 

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Rbiggs2525 said:

I picture Scherzer as purely a salary dump for Texas. They are up against it in terms of Luxury tax. I also see Scherzer as a start to start pitcher in terms of durability. Not willing to give up more than a AAAA guy and a lottery ticket prospect. 

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That gives them a CBT payroll of $243.9 million and a penalty of $2.1 million because it’s their second year in a row over the limit.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danepstein/2024/02/19/eight-mlb-teams-could-exceed-the-cbt-threshold/

I don't think they are going to give up a superior return over that small a sum.

[Rbiggs2525]

18 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danepstein/2024/02/19/eight-mlb-teams-could-exceed-the-cbt-threshold/

I don't think they are going to give up a superior return over that small a sum.

Add in Scherzer is due about 15 million for the rest of the season. It’s a big salary risk and doesn’t deserve much of a prospect.

[Can_of_corn]

9 minutes ago, Rbiggs2525 said:

Add in Scherzer is due about 15 million for the rest of the season. It’s a big salary risk and doesn’t deserve much of a prospect.

The Rangers are only paying 12.5M of his 2024 salary.

[sportsfan8703]

I don’t know what deal y’all want, but Scherzer is out of McDermott range now. 

He commanded a top 50 prospect in all of baseball last year and that was with a big/complicated contract, and more teams were selling. 

Povich is probably what it would take now. 

[Allan Bryant]

On 7/3/2024 at 7:25 PM, Greg Pappas said:

Eovaldi has 80 IP, while Scherzer is at 10.1.  So, that's not a fair comp.  I'd be pleased to get either, though we will likely wait until Scherzer throws a couple more times before we feel more comfortable with him.

Indeed it’s not , Scherzer made his third start just the other night .  So far he’s 1-2 , 2.70 era , 16 innings with 11 Ks . He and Eovaldi would be nice get . Just a question of cost 

[Allan Bryant]

9 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I don’t know what deal y’all want, but Scherzer is out of McDermott range now. 

He commanded a top 50 prospect in all of baseball last year and that was with a big/complicated contract, and more teams were selling. 

Povich is probably what it would take now. 

If any sellers ask about Povich, we tell them we don’t want talk about him 

[sportsfan8703]

Just now, Allan Bryant said:

If any sellers ask about Povich, we tell them we don’t want talk about him 

Their response would be how did starting Dean Kremer in Game 3 work out for you guys?

[Allan Bryant]

7 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Their response would be how did starting Dean Kremer in Game 3 work out for you guys?

Our response would be you don’t have to worry about that again 

[waroriole]

On 7/3/2024 at 7:32 PM, Allan Bryant said:

Yeah I agree, we need see bit more of Scherzer before making offer .  But I don’t like Elias waiting until the very last minute like he done last year’s deadline .  

You mean like every GM in baseball does?

[Allan Bryant]

6 minutes ago, waroriole said:

You mean like every GM in baseball does?

Like when the clock strikes midnight, who’s empty handed and who’s not 

[Aristotelian]

Yes, but I'd rather trade a player of similar value who doesn't fill a need for us. I'd rather trade our #6 Beavers over our #7 McDermott. If they want pitching coming back, toss in Bright.