A few things

[Lt Melmo]

Oh. Fernando. Thanks guys. I should pay more attention to things.

[The yard]

Thanks BB. Mostly good news. Too bad he hasn't heard anything to confirm what Peace's contact said.

[Moose Milligan]

BB, you're the man.

Wish you heard something about Wieters though...

[Sports Guy]

Be interesting to see what FCab decides to do.

It would probably be in his best interest to come here and work with Mazzone.

Be nice to add his power arm.

[wildcard]

Money is the driver.

[Sports Guy]

Yeah, look what he's done with Daniel Cabrera.

Or your man crush..Guthrie.

[Sports Guy]

Since you're predicting that Guthrie reverts to a 5th starter type, I'm not sure how you are pumping him up as a Leo success story at the same time.

Making him a 5th starter would be a success.

[BaltBird 24]

Making him a 5th starter would be a success.

I don't expect him to ever be as good as he showed his first two months or so, but I don't think it's unreasonable to think that he couldn't settle in as a solid 4th or 5th starter. He certainly has better stuff than alot of people who hold those positions.

[Sports Guy]

Nice to see how low your standards are.

Just being realistic based on age and previous career stats.

[Lucky Jim]

Just being realistic based on age and previous career stats.

Seems indisputable - a waiver claim that becomes a good #5 starter? That's a success.

I mean, there are degrees and orders of success. But how could that not be?

[Sports Guy]

Seems indisputable - a waiver claim that becomes a good #5 starter? That's a success.

I mean, there are degrees and orders of success. But how could that not be?

Well, if you don't think he is a 2/3 starter and that he walks on water, you are wrong about Guthrie.

[Sports Guy]

That's almost an oximoron. See what kind of stats SG predicts for Guthrie in the future. It's more what you'd call, a run of the mill 5th starter. Someone, like Brian Burres for instance, who is a borderline ML starter. Those kinds of guys are very replaceable.

If Burres gets better command, he has the ability to be every bit the pitcher, if not better, than Guthrie is.

[Sports Guy]

That's why he is who he is. So IF Guthrie regains the stuff he had earlier in the season and the same command that he'll be a #1 starter. There's no doubt that when both are on their games that Guthrie is the more talented pitcher with the higher ceiling. Anyone who would disagree with that would have to have their head in a place which requires outstanding flexibility. How limber are you?

Well, to think Guthrie will average 1.5 walks per 9 IP, when he has NEVER done that in his career is a joke.

So, he won't have that command. That should be obvious.

[Lucky Jim]

That's why he is who he is. So IF Guthrie regains the stuff he had earlier in the season and the same command that he'll be a #1 starter. There's no doubt that when both are on their games that Guthrie is the more talented pitcher with the higher ceiling. Anyone who would disagree with that would have to have their head in a place which requires outstanding flexibility. How limber are you?

This is true, too. A Guthrie who throws 97-98 w/ movement and location is more valuable than a Burres with command, I think.

[Sports Guy]

BTW, Burres is younger and has had better MiL success and did it in much better hitters leagues.