Elias: It's on me

[TopGunnar]

3 hours ago, wildcard said:

When the top guy says it on me and he has a lot of money behind him.....Watch out.

Keep dreaming.

[wildcard]

3 hours ago, spiritof66 said:

Elias has said that he and his staff are (or will be) making an exhaustive inquiry to identify the sources of this team's underperformance -- which I take to mean not just the playoff defeats, but also the underperformance during the second half of the sentence. Sounds good. 

But at the same time, before that investigation has gotten underway, Elias has announced that Hyde will be back next year. I believe many of the criticisms of Hyde's in-game decisions, lack of fire, failure to take action in response to boneheaded baserunning, etc., etc. -- including my own -- have been exaggerated. But Hyde does seem, to me anyway, to have shortcomings as a manager. I really don't know whether any of this team's problems could be alleviated by bringing in a new manager with qualities that Hyde lacks. But if Elias is serious about a top-to-bottom review of the team's weaknesses and ways that those weaknesses might be improved on, shouldn't the manager's stewardship  be among the subjects considered? It appears that Elias intends to scrutinize and look for constructive changes throughout the organization. Except the manager. I don't get it.

Elias and his team will also  analyze his performance but I doubt he will fire himself or Hyde.  Instead both of them will probably try to learn from those things that they did and that did not turn out well.  And take corrective active. JMO

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Elias and his team will also  analyze his performance but I doubt he will fire himself or Hyde.  Instead both of them will probably try to learn from those things that they did and that did not turn out well.  And take corrective active. JMO

Fire himself?

[O's84]

12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Fire himself?

I doubt any GM has ever done that.  Maybe he can be the first, he could hold a big press conference and everything.  Go Elias, go! 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, O's84 said:

I doubt any GM has ever done that.  Maybe he can be the first, he could hold a big press conference and everything.  Go Elias, go! 

Fire himself so he can go work for a larger market team maybe...

[foxfield]

5 hours ago, wildcard said:

When the top guy says it on me and he has a lot of money behind him.....Watch out.

 

3 hours ago, Bemorewins said:

I'm afraid I will have to see it to believe it. I have been disappointed way too many times to count.

The Baltimore Orioles are still one of the best teams in all of baseball.  They still have an awful lot going for them.  Unfortunately, the while the distance between World Series winner and close but no cigar is not that much in the overall win column during the season, the things they need to go right, and the things they need to do to improve are still pretty massive.

Compounding this is the fact that they can do everything necessary and it is still possible it won't work.  I don't say that as an excuse.  Elias is going to be measured by playoff appearances and the success that brings.  He has been engineer of two playoff teams and a near miss.  He still has as many wins with his near miss and his rebuilding teams in the playoffs as his two playoff teams.  It is certainly fine to criticize that.

Of course he says it is on him.  One because it is, and two because any good GM would do the same.  But the Orioles are no longer building towards being good.  They are good and no one is going to give them anything.  There is work to be done to make this team better positioned to compete in the post season.   And the Angelos family is no longer a hinderance.

I am as disappointed as everyone else and in general I am a root for the uniform not the player guy.  These guys have been fun to root for, but the second half and this playoff run was tough to stomach.  I hope that to give this team the chance to compete, they add a #1 TOR pitcher and another playoff caliber starter before the season starts.  I also hope they add a playoff experienced RH bat.  Trade, sign, whatever.  The window is open.  Whatcha gonna do?

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, foxfield said:

 

The Baltimore Orioles are still one of the best teams in all of baseball.  They still have an awful lot going for them. 

 

What is unsettling to me is in how much better a position the team appeared to be in last year at this (approximate) time.