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It's like I was saying earlier in the thread (last night) he was being seriously overvalued around here. He all but killed his trade value in the last two weeks and has proven himself to be a headache. Guts and Koji would have been a better deal for STL.
How is he overvalued on here?

He is 24, he has several years of service time left...He had a 4.3 WAR LAST YEAR and in his rookie year, his WAR was just under 3...better than anything Jones has done thus far.

He walks at a good rate and has power.

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How is he overvalued on here?

He is 24, he has several years of service time left...He had a 4.3 WAR LAST YEAR and in his rookie year, his WAR was just under 3...better than anything Jones has done thus far.

He walks at a good rate and has power.

Because he's a clubhouse cancer, whines and pouts, and doesn't respect rules or authority. But hey, if you don't care about any of that...

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Jays fan coming in peace.

I am absolutely shocked that we received a former top 5 prospect in the game and a player with the tools to become a top 5 outfielder in the game for scrap pieces and Jason Frasor.

Is Steward a scrap piece though?

Stotle said his O's comp would be Arrieta.

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Because he's a clubhouse cancer, whines and pouts, and doesn't respect rules or authority. But hey, if you don't care about any of that...
Well, I don't, especially in a deal like this.

We heard terrible things about Yunel as well...How has that worked out?

He is young and maybe has done dumb things but LaRussa is also known to be a jerk, so you never know.

Either way, he is worth the gamble.

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When Yunel was with the Braves he was supposed to be a club house cancer and whiner as well.

From what I remember a lot of writers seemed to think the "cancer" talking coming out of Atlanta was BS coming from the team. In this case, though, we have a whole series of statements from player AND team that suggest some serious issues behind the public posturing.

That's what worries me.

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It is clearly possible that the Cards just really, really like Jackson. I mean, they apparently turned down Niemann + Howell from the Rays.

That's true, too. And Niemann and Howell seems like at least as good a deal, if not better, than what is being suggested in Guthrie and Koji.

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From what I remember a lot of writers seemed to think the "cancer" talking coming out of Atlanta was BS coming from the team. In this case, though, we have a whole series of statements from player AND team that suggest some serious issues behind the public posturing.

That's what worries me.

Then you're worried about the wrong thing. Feast or famine, Rasmus isn't the Orioles' problem now.

What you should be worried about is the fact that two teams from the Orioles' own division, both of which have consistently finished ahead of the Orioles seemingly since God was a small child, were both in on Rasmus...and the O's apparently weren't. IMO, that is the problem as much as anything else.

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Then you're worried about the wrong thing. Feast or famine, Rasmus isn't the Orioles' problem now.

What you should be worried about is the fact that two teams from the Orioles' own division, both of which have consistently finished ahead of the Orioles seemingly since God was a small child, were both in on Rasmus...and the O's apparently weren't. IMO, that is the problem as much as anything else.

Nah...For the apologists, none of this matters. You will learn that.
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Then you're worried about the wrong thing. Feast or famine, Rasmus isn't the Orioles' problem now.

What you should be worried about is the fact that two teams from the Orioles' own division, both of which have consistently finished ahead of the Orioles seemingly since God was a small child, were both in on Rasmus...and the O's apparently weren't. IMO, that is the problem as much as anything else.

Sure that's an issue. But you have to take these things with both a general view and a specific view. The general view is what you are saying. The specific view is what I'm saying.

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