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Hank Scorpio Hangout Grand Counsel

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Nah...For the apologists, none of this matters. You will learn that.

The nature of the deal doesn't make you wonder why someone else didn't top it? Certainly doesn't seem like much of a haul to me for a guy of Rasmus' caliber.

So what's missing? Did everyone else crap themselves? It's not like Rasmus wasn't the #1 overall BA prospect like 3 years ago. He's obviously talented.

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You've never learned how not to be an ass. So to assume that people will learn things is poor thinking on your part.
Oh i have...Just not to those who deserve zero respect for their idiotic analysis.

You have never learned how you are consistently proven wrong, year after year. Its pathetic.

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Sure that's an issue. But you have to take these things with both a general view and a specific view. The general view is what you are saying. The specific view is what I'm saying.

Then let's just say that, for once, I'd rather be debating the virtues or lack thereof of the Orioles' having just acquired a young, extremely talented player via trade or free agency, as opposed to lamenting the almost ceaseless aggravation that comes with the Orioles once again sitting on the sidelines.

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The nature of the deal doesn't make you wonder why someone else didn't top it? Certainly doesn't seem like much of a haul to me for a guy of Rasmus' caliber.

So what's missing? Did everyone else crap themselves? It's not like Rasmus wasn't the #1 overall BA prospect like 3 years ago. He's obviously talented.

But who cares? Maybe the guy is a total douche bag. But you know what, that total douche bag was worth over 4 WAR as a 23 y/o last year.

Yunel Escobar was traded for peanuts last year and he was an elite talent at an elite position.

Deals like this happen all the time.

Why do you think we stole Hardy? Poor performance, expensive and injury prone. No team could top the garbage we dealt?

Does that mean we shouldn't have extended him? Or does it mean that maybe the other teams were wrong to not take a risk?

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The nature of the deal doesn't make you wonder why someone else didn't top it? Certainly doesn't seem like much of a haul to me for a guy of Rasmus' caliber.

He already admitted that things that may have a serious impact on a player's ability to turn raw talent into production don't bother him.

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But who cares? Maybe the guy is a total douche bag. But you know what, that total douche bag was worth over 4 WAR as a 23 y/o last year.

Yunel Escobar was traded for peanuts last year and he was an elite talent at an elite position.

Deals like this happen all the time.

Why do you think we stole Hardy? Poor performance, expensive and injury prone. No team could top the garbage we dealt?

Does that mean we shouldn't have extended him? Or does it mean that maybe the other teams were wrong to not take a risk?

Wait, so Hardy counts in this thread but not in the other?

And if you are this worried, we could always go out and get Elijah Dukes.

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Then let's just say that, for once, I'd rather be debating the virtues or lack thereof of the Orioles' having just acquired a young, extremely talented player via trade or free agency, as opposed to lamenting the almost ceaseless aggravation that comes with the Orioles once again sitting on the sidelines.

Um, ok...

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But who cares? Maybe the guy is a total douche bag. But you know what, that total douche bag was worth over 4 WAR as a 23 y/o last year.

Yunel Escobar was traded for peanuts last year and he was an elite talent at an elite position.

Deals like this happen all the time.

Why do you think we stole Hardy? Poor performance, expensive and injury prone. No team could top the garbage we dealt?

Does that mean we shouldn't have extended him? Or does it mean that maybe the other teams were wrong to not take a risk?

We've been losing with a bunch of "nice guys" for a long, long time. I'd like to have nine [AHEM!] "douche bags" like Rasmus on my team.

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Hank Scorpio Hangout Grand Counsel

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But who cares? Maybe the guy is a total douche bag. But you know what, that total douche bag was worth over 4 WAR as a 23 y/o last year.

Yunel Escobar was traded for peanuts last year and he was an elite talent at an elite position.

Deals like this happen all the time.

Why do you think we stole Hardy? Poor performance, expensive and injury prone. No team could top the garbage we dealt?

Does that mean we shouldn't have extended him? Or does it mean that maybe the other teams were wrong to not take a risk?

And he was just traded from a 1st place team with a half a game lead in their division for peanuts!!!!!!!!!

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Um, ok...

Try to look at it a different way: no one is arguing with you that "something might be up" which drove Rasmus' price down. Evidently, at least two, much better (one far superior) organizations felt like he was worth the risk. The O's suck...and they do nothing, even though having Rasmus to play CF or LF would basically, best-case, solve the Orioles' OF problems for years.

What about the way this team has handled itself for the last 14 years makes you think that taking the safe road in a situation like this is the right way to go?

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And he was just traded from a 1st place team with a half a game lead in their division for peanuts!!!!!!!!!
A team that had a big need for a starter...But again, SO WHAT!?

Just because he had an issue with LaRussa, does that mean he would have here? Does that mean he will be a jerk here?

Maybe he just made some dumb mistakes, as we all do when we are young and just needed to get away from LaRussa?

Again, look at Escobar...He was supposed to be a jerk...The Braves didn't want him..the same organization that dealt Andrus because they had Escobar, that's how much they did like him and then turned on him. That's how much he was hated by that team....and now look at him. The Jays love him.

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