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Matt Hobgood - is there hope? (No, there is not. Indy League bound.)

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This is actually kind of shocking. After his operation which I had never even heard of before (shoulder tightening) its great to see him doing so well. Didnt another Oriole prospect have the same surgery that Hobgood got? Wonder how that kid is doing?

Dan Klein. It did not work the first or the second time. He has had several setbacks.

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Dan Klein. It did not work the first or the second time. He has had several setbacks.

Pretty sure Klein's surgery involved a torn labrum that had already been surgically repaired, along with loosening the capsule whereas Matt only had his capsule tightened up. A lot more at stake when the dreaded labrum is involved.

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Matt hit 94 in his scoreless appearance at Hagerstown. So far he has 7 innings with 0 earned runs.

When I talked to him he said that he is getting stretched out to be a starter within the next month or so. Hopes to finish at Frederick this year, Bowie would be icing on the cake.

Matt is is a really good place mentally, having known him for a while. The shoulder is great, he looks like he is in GREAT shape, and like he told me he is only 85% velo because the season just started. We will see him hit 96 this year.

He's a pitcher that gets stronger as the game goes on is what I was told by the Shorebirds manager.

I'll tell you who is impressive is Branden Kline...96 at Delmarva. Hit 95 once too. Sat 91-94

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Matt hit 94 in his scoreless appearance at Hagerstown. So far he has 7 innings with 0 earned runs.

When I talked to him he said that he is getting stretched out to be a starter within the next month or so. Hopes to finish at Frederick this year, Bowie would be icing on the cake.

Matt is is a really good place mentally, having known him for a while. The shoulder is great, he looks like he is in GREAT shape, and like he told me he is only 85% velo because the season just started. We will see him hit 96 this year.

He's a pitcher that gets stronger as the game goes on is what I was told by the Shorebirds manager.

I'll tell you who is impressive is Branden Kline...96 at Delmarva. Hit 95 once too. Sat 91-94

Thanks for the updates.

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Matt said something at the end of the interview, which I found interesting. He basically said he liked pitching in relief because you have to throw strikes immediately. You don't have time to waste. You need to get hitters out quick... or something to that effect. You need to be efficient with your pitches.

Man, that is a quality many of our pitchers need. Too many of our guys are inefficient with their pitches. I'm thinking of Tillman and Arrieta especially. I wonder if being a reliever is truly something good for becoming more efficient.

There seems to be a couple reasons to give young pitchers time as relievers in the minors.

1. They learn to pitch efficiently

2. Their innings are limited

I wonder if this could become a trend if Hobgood has success. Really rooting for the guy.

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Another scoreless inning last night, he gave himself a bit of a test though after walking the lead-off man, he then threw a wild pitch moving lead-off man to 2nd, he then walked the next batter leaving men on 1st and 2nd with no outs. A force out and double play ended the inning.

The Shorebirds pitchers gave up 8 walks last night so perhaps the strike zone was a little squeezed.

IP1 H0 R0 ER0 BB2 SO0 ERA 0.00

IP8 H3 R0 ER0 BB4 SO5 ERA 0.00

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I wonder if being a reliever is truly something good for becoming more efficient.

There seems to be a couple reasons to give young pitchers time as relievers in the minors.

1. They learn to pitch efficiently

2. Their innings are limited

I'll defer to those who are more involved in these actual discussions, but if you are developing a pitcher to help the major league club either in the future or as trade bait, starting is really the only option. Failed starters in the minors become relievers. But not usually at the minor league level if they are going to have a major league career. Conversion is relatively quick if they are stretched out as a starter.

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It's certainly the preferred option. It's definitely not the only option. There are certainly many examples of pitchers who were developed as relievers and were successful ML pitchers.

There I go, broad brush generalizing again ;)

I did say "Not usually" in the next sentence. So there is that.

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Personally, knowing Matt very well, and being a minor league intern, I am proud to say that he is on the right track.

He is finally healthy and is in a great state of mind. Steve Sharpe an Oakland Athletics scout clocked him 3 times against the Hagerstown Suns at 95.

Right now Matt told me that they are planning to pitch him out of the bullpen, and he is working his way up to the rotation. He figures to be a part of it in May at some point, and plans on finishing at Frederick this year.

Matt and I talked a lot about the "bust" label. He said "People can say what they want to, but the Angles were going to take me with the 23 pick if I fell that far, and Joe Jordan said that if I was available, the Orioles were taking me. I was hitting 97 98 my junior year."

"It's funny, I beat Gerrit Cole my senior year. I only lost one game my senior year, and if I had won it we would have stayed in the playoffs and I wouldn't have been able to throw bullpens for Kansas City and Baltimore. Since we lost I was able to and everything fell into place."

He said that he feels as healthy as he was in High School and he is only throwing 85% velocity now. There is still left in the tank.

Look for big things....

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