Markakis on 2nd, 1 out, Jones at the plate....

[Guest]

Lough is 1.5 dWAR better than Nick according to BR.

People over value Nick it's OK i get it. Lough's D is so much better then Nick.

[Can_of_corn]

In one game against Milwaukee, the Brewers had the tying run at second base when Donie Bush happened to look out to right field and see Williams swinging his imaginary bat. But this time, his glove wasn?t even on. It was lying on the grass next to him, a useless appendage. Bush stopped the game, sprinted out to Ted, and yelled, ?What?s the idea! This run means the ball game!? Not to worry, the Kid replied. ?That guy never hits to right field" from The Kid, by Ben Bradlee, Jr.

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But did he ever kill a man with an oar?

Didn't think so.

Anyone can kill people with a jet fighter.

[tntoriole]

To lump Adam with those other examples is a insult to your intellect.

I am just talking about the relationship between strikeouts and power, nothing else. Your argument is that he would hit fewer homeruns if he struck out less, but that is simply not the case for the truly elite hitters.

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[Can_of_corn]

I am just talking about the relationship between strikeouts and power, nothing else. Your argument is that he would hit fewer homeruns if he struck out less, but that is simply not the case for the truly elite hitters.

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Would depend on the definition of elite you are using.

[tntoriole]

But did he ever kill a man with an oar?

Didn't think so.

Anyone can kill people with a jet fighter.

That biography is the best baseball book I have ever read. Ted's fighter jet crash landed on his first Korea combat mission and it was a miracle he was not killed.

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[tntoriole]

Would depend on the definition of elite you are using.

Albert Pujols, Hank Aaron, Ted Williams, Barry Bonds, Frank Robinson elite.

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[Can_of_corn]

That biography is the best baseball book I have ever read. Ted's fighter jet crash landed on his first Korea combat mission and it was a miracle he was not killed.

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I can tell.

[Can_of_corn]

Albert Pujols, Hank Aaron, Ted Williams, Barry Bonds, Frank Robinson elite.

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Odd you would leave out Frank Thomas.

[tntoriole]

Which is why I was comparing him to Miyamoto Musashi.

Didnt he hit .340 for Hiroshima Carp? Lol.

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[Can_of_corn]

Didnt he hit .340 for Hiroshima Carp? Lol.

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No, he killed a man with an oar he whittled into a Bokken.

The other guy was using a normal sword.

Musashi was probably hung over at the time.

[tntoriole]

Odd you would leave out Frank Thomas.

Arbitrary I know, but career WAR over 100 does it for me.

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[Can_of_corn]

Arbitrary I know, but career WAR over 100 does it for me.

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Why go by WAR which includes defense and baserunning?

I would go by OPS+ (Thomas' 156 edges out Aaron's 155)

[tntoriole]

Why go by WAR which includes defense and baserunning?

I would go by OPS+ (Thomas' 156 edges out Aaron's 155)

Fair enough.

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[weams]

I am just talking about the relationship between strikeouts and power, nothing else. Your argument is that he would hit fewer homeruns if he struck out less, but that is simply not the case for the truly elite hitters.

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I never compared him to Pujols on steroids. Whoops. Did I say that?

[Can_of_corn]

I never compared him to Pujols on steroids. Whoops. Did I say that?

Cough *Aaron* cough.