Who's the better pitcher Bundy or Eduardo Rodriguez?

Redskins Rick · August 2, 2016

He was injured to start the season.

He started AA Opening Season on 4-3-2014, made 3 starts in April, 2 starts in May, 6 in June and 5 in July.

He did miss some starts from mid April to mid May.

4 of his last 5 starts were clunkers, with 1 nice efforts.

LookitsPuck · August 2, 2016

Knee? Like always?

I'm not sure always.

Just saying he had a sprained knee to start the season (missed 5 weeks), so it takes a while to get back into your routine.

Anyways, back to ERod's rankings prior to 2014 season:

Baseball America: #3 Orioles prospect

Baseball America: #65 best in baseball

MLB.com: #68 best in baseball

ESPN: #43 best in baseball

Baseball Prospectus: #61 best in baseball

Redskins Rick · August 2, 2016

Yes, he was. Then in his first 8 starts he posted a 5.93 ERA. In his next 8 starts, right before the trade, his ERA was 3.67. So, while I do think his stock had dropped a little bit from the pre-season, he was still a top 100 guy in my mind (rated #65 by BA pre-season). He certainly raised his stock by pitching lights-out after the trade.

His last 8 starts were not lights out:

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Frobby · August 2, 2016

His last 8 starts were not lights out:

No, they weren't. 3.67 ERA is not lights out. But it's a lot better than 5.93. By the way, the game log you posted starts one game too soon, and ends one game too soon. EdRod's last game for us was on 7/27/14 and was not a very good one. Basically, 4 of his final 8 outings were very good, and the other four were not very good.

Redskins Rick · August 2, 2016

No, they weren't. 3.67 ERA is not lights out. But it's a lot better than 5.93. By the way, the game log you posted starts one game too soon, and ends one game too soon. EdRod's last game for us was on 7/27/14 and was not a very good one. Basically, 4 of his final 8 outings were very good, and the other four were not very good.

Sorry about that, i guess my cut and paste slipped a line.

Not sure, how he got a 3.67 with that many runs allowed and going less than 4.1 innings, 3 times.

Frobby · August 2, 2016

Sorry about that, i guess my cut and paste slipped a line.
Not sure, how he got a 3.67 with that many runs allowed and going less than 4.1 innings, 3 times.

Basically, the fewer innings you throw, the less that game will be weighted in calculating ERA. In the four good games, he pitched 26 innings and allowed 4 ER (1.38 ERA). In the four bad ones, he pitched 15.2 innings and allowed 13 ER (7.47 ERA). But the four good ones count almost twice as much because he pitched nearly twice as many innings in those outings. 17 ER in 41.2 IP = 3.67 ERA.

Redskins Rick · August 2, 2016

Basically, the fewer innings you throw, the less that game will be weighted in calculating ERA. In the four good games, he pitched 26 innings and allowed 4 ER (1.38 ERA). In the four bad ones, he pitched 15.2 innings and allowed 13 ER (7.47 ERA). But the four good ones count almost twice as much because he pitched nearly twice as many innings in those outings. 17 ER in 41.2 IP = 3.67 ERA.

Thanks for the explanation. It almost sounds like they were managing his stats and trade potential by yanking him early in several starts.

Frobby · August 2, 2016

Thanks for the explanation. It almost sounds like they were managing his stats and trade potential by yanking him early in several starts.

Could be, but I doubt it. Here were his pitch counts in the 8 starts (asterisks by the short ones): 87, 102, 95*, 99, 94*, 88*, 86, 88*. He was throwing a lot of pitches per inning in those short starts.

OFFNY · August 3, 2016

19 OUTS: 7 Groundouts, 6 Strikeouts, 2 Lineouts (Including 1 Double Play), 1 Popout, 1 Flyout, 1 Out on Interference on the Catcher's Mitt

EDUARDO JOSE RODRIGUEZ HERNANDEZ O (vs. MARINERS, 8/01)

IP:l 6.33

H:;; 3 ll(2 Doubles, 1 Single)

R:l) 1

BB:)2

SO:)6

Pitches: 101 (64 Strikes, 37 Balls)

2016 ERA: 5.91

PITCHES BY INNING

****************

13 (91 Strikes, 4 Balls)

16 (12 Strikes, 4 Balls)

12 (51 Strikes, 7 Balls)

18 (11 Strikes, 7 Balls)

13 (91 Strikes, 4 Balls)

10 (61 Strikes, 4 Balls)

19 (12 Strikes, 7 Balls) *

* Rodriguez recorded 1 out before departing in the 7th inning.

The very next day ........

o

21 OUTS: 8 Groundouts, 7 Strikeouts, 3 Flyouts, 2 Lineouts, 1 Caught Stealing

DYLAN MATTHEW BUNDY O (vs. RANGERS, 8/02)

IP:l 7

H:;; 1 ll(1 Single)

R:l) 0

BB:)1

SO:)7

Pitches: 88 (60 Strikes, 28 Balls)

2016 ERA: 3.05

PITCHES BY INNING

****************

11 (91 Strikes, 2 Balls)

10 (71 Strikes, 3 Balls)

10 (81 Strikes, 2 Balls)

14 (71 Strikes, 7 Balls)

16 (10 Strikes, 6 Balls)

16 (12 Strikes, 4 Balls)

11 (71 Strikes, 4 Balls)

ExileAngelos · August 3, 2016

I'm all Orioles here and frankly its Rodriguez by a mile. I don't understand this fascination and obsession, in some cases, with Bundy, who obviously is not the same pitcher he was before TJS. I would have no problem moving him in a heartbeat to fill a pressing need.

Oh dear...

SpinJr · August 3, 2016

Oh dear...

Cold blooded sir. lol

I'm sure Bird55 don't mind.

OFFNY · August 6, 2016

o

13 OUTS: 5 Strikeouts, 3 Groundouts, 3 Lineouts, 2 Flyouts

EDUARDO JOSE RODRIGUEZ HERNANDEZ O (vs. DODGERS, 8/06)

IP:l 4.33

H:;; 8 ll(1 Double, 7 Singles)

R:l) 3

BB:)1

SO:)5

Pitches: 88 (56 Strikes, 32 Balls)

2016 ERA: 5.93

PITCHES BY INNING

****************

15 (91 Strikes, 6 Balls)

28 (20 Strikes, 8 Balls)

14 (91 Strikes, 5 Balls)

17 (11 Strikes, 6 Balls)

14 (71 Strikes, 7 Balls) *

* Rodriguez recorded 1 out before departing in the 5th inning.

OFFNY · August 7, 2016

o

(vs. WHITE SOX, 8/07)

Another excellent outing for Bundy today.

Tx Oriole · August 7, 2016

Oh dear...

Bundy is better. IMO

SpinJr · August 7, 2016

I don't really. It's all good natured kidding. I probably wrote that after Seattle lit him up. Regardless a lot of people were whistling the same tune at that time. That said, I hope can stay healthy and can have a big time career.

I'll pile it on again today

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