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MDtransplant757 Hangout Grand Counsel

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Maybe. But no one has ever shown me anything that says "ground ball pitcher" is anything but descriptive, not indicative of value. You may not remember when the Rockies "knew" they needed a bunch of ground ball pitchers to succeed in Coors, and they ended up with $200M in commitments to GB pitchers with 6.00 ERAs.

So that's why they suck. But he pitched in cincinatti, and wasn't bad. I think a lot of his losses just came from the reds offense being Joey Votto and Billy Hamilton, and their defense being an absolute joke.

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So that's why they suck. But he pitched in cincinatti, and wasn't bad. I think a lot of his losses just came from the reds offense being Joey Votto and Billy Hamilton, and their defense being an absolute joke.

While the Reds had a below-average defense, their starting 3B, 2B, and one of their two SSs were above-average. Todd Frazier was one of the better fielding third basemen in the NL. I find it difficult to believe that the O's defense is so good that it'll surpass the difference in quality between the AL and the NL. And I doubt his 13.7% HR/FB rate will improve in OPACY.

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So that's why they suck. But he pitched in cincinatti, and wasn't bad. I think a lot of his losses just came from the reds offense being Joey Votto and Billy Hamilton, and their defense being an absolute joke.

Billy Hamilton?!?! The Billy Hamilton who had a 52 wRC+ and .563 OPS last season? He's a dreadful offensive player. I'm legitimately angry anyone put him in the same sentence as Joey Votto.

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Billy Hamilton?!?! The Billy Hamilton who had a 52 wRC+ and .563 OPS last season? He's a dreadful offensive player. I'm legitimately angry anyone put him in the same sentence as Joey Votto.

Joey Votto is your first baseman tomorrow if you want the contract. He's the Todd Helton of his era.

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Billy Hamilton?!?! The Billy Hamilton who had a 52 wRC+ and .563 OPS last season? He's a dreadful offensive player. I'm legitimately angry anyone put him in the same sentence as Joey Votto.

Wow. I had realized Hamilton was really only known for his speed, but had no idea his year was that bad! He slugged .289! .289!

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