Tx Oriole Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Good poll. The options are all pretty close IMO, and all are better than the Davis deal that supposedly is "off the table." I went with Upton because he's younger than the other two and I think the difference in value is worth the pick. I voted for upton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotelian Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 We need Left-handed power. It does not need to come from First base or Right field. Is that better? We need power against RHP. A power hitter with even or reverse splits would be fine if he can hit good RHPs. I am not saying Cespedes is that guy necessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrungoHazewood Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Fair enough but just as good a case can be made for Cespedes as for Davis. I think better but its certainly debatable. I am very wary of the multiple teams that have found it advantageous to be rid of Cespedes. And the fact that he finished his walk year with the hottest streak of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrungoHazewood Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 You know this 100%? Of course not. It hurts to think the opponents you personally dislike beat you fair and square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Of course not. It hurts to think the opponents you personally dislike beat you fair and square. Interestingly, the Jays scored only 9 more runs at home than on the road, but they allowed 86 fewer runs at home. Are their pitchers "getting help" at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleStufOriole Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I'm a big fan of Davis and want to see him in an O's uniform in 2016 and beyond, but if we bring him back and don't sign anymore outfielders, we go into spring training in the same situation as last year; hoping that two from our large quantity of mediocre OFs breakout and man the corners all season. Last year we had Reimold/Lough/Young/Pearce/De Aza/Snider. We'd just be replacing them with Reimold/Hoes/Alvarez/Urrutia/Rickard/Kim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrungoHazewood Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Not too crazy to get traded twice going into a walk year. Only bad rumblings out of Boston. Detroit said to be interested in a reunion. Davis put on his own hot streak heading into FA. Davis has shown more downside takes more financial commitment and pushes Trumbo to DH where he happy less value. And we don't get the pick. All the options carry significant risk. Any $100M+ contract does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NATTYBO's Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Teally the poll is: Davis + 14th pick Cespedes + 14th & 30th pick Upton +30th Pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP0861 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 And Cespedes turned the Mets whole season around last year. Upton never made that kind of an impact. I'll take Cespedes. Oh geez. That pitching staff didn't have anything to do with it? They were over .500 and in the playoff hunt BEFORE Cespedes. That's precisely why they went after him. He was huge for them, no doubt. He was heating up with Detroit, Mets made a good move, and he stayed hot....up until the playoffs started anyway....then he came crashing back down to earth with a .222 postseason. But to say he "turned the Mets whole season around" is pretty over the top. Also, lets not forget the Nationals epic Aug/Sept meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TouchemAll Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Upton get it done he's the only guy I feel ok with giving up the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdelaware Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 a) It's not a bad track record. Even if Manny was the only guy on the list who worked out, wouldn't you be pretty careful about throwing away a 1-in-10 chance at a HOF-caliber player? What if the team had used your recommended plan prior to 2007 or 2010? They would have traded $100M+ in surplus value for expensive short-term fixes.b) If you're going to assume that poor picks in the past mean that future picks are likely worthless you've decided that a sustainable, reasonably-priced successful Orioles team is exceptionally unlikely. Manny was also a #3 not a #14 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdelaware Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Gausman has already pitched close to a full year as an MLB starter, and also contributed greatly to our 2014 playoff run. I would say he is a B+ with the possibility of an A. If that is what you mean by "incomplete" then I am OK with the list.That actually seems like a pretty good track record to me. I don't see a good argument either way based on this list. I still say Cespedes and keep the pick. Gausman may turn out to be an A+. Yes by incomplete I mean we still do not know exactly what we have there. He's shown flashes but has been jerked around too much to make enough impact. I'm sure after this season we'll know a lot more if he remains in the roatation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonySoprano Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Here's a list of players taken with the #14 pick. Some notables: Jose Fernandez, Jason Heyward, or you could get a Travis Snider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleStufOriole Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I really hope our signing of Terdoslavich doesn't mean that we are pulling out of the running for Upton or Cespedes. That was a joke...I hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srock Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I voted Davis. Because...they devil you know. But its basically a tie at this money between Davis and Upton. Would have voted for Davis AND Upton if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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