Starting pitching better now but bullpen worse.

[Dark Helmet]

I really think Wieters calls a poor game, can't frame and doesn't block well. It's going to make average starters (at best) look abysmal.

These guys would be abysmal with or without Wieters. They can't execute their pitches. Gausman misses the target, Gallardo doesn't want to throw it over, Jimenez is done, Wright and Wilson aren't MLB starters and Worley is what he is. Bundy is still learning. The pitching coaches need to get through to these guys at some point. I guess it was Joseph's fault last year for their struggles?

[Frobby]

The bullpen's fine. The offense needs to get us some leads to protect.

[MDtransplant757]

The bullpen's fine. The offense needs to get us some leads to protect.

Pretty much. It's only JJ, Kim, Pedro and Manny hitting. This is just the time of the year when none of our guys can really do anything.

[LookitsPuck]

These guys would be abysmal with or without Wieters. They can't execute their pitches. Gausman misses the target, Gallardo doesn't want to throw it over, Jimenez is done, Wright and Wilson aren't MLB starters and Worley is what he is. Bundy is still learning. The pitching coaches need to get through to these guys at some point. I guess it was Joseph's fault last year for their struggles?

Sigh. That's not what I said. I counted at least a half dozen pitches that Wieters didn't even frame correctly that Joseph would have nailed. They were usually on 2 strike counts. If you pick up 2-3 outs a game because of better framing, that can be he difference between a meh and an awful outing. Wieters can't even block or catch pitches as well as he used to. So you run into situations where runners are in scoring position or on 3rd and they never should be. He's been awful this month.