E Santana to O's?

[accinfo]

If Angelos is willing to pay for Ervin I would have no problem with trading for him. You could move Bundy back to bullpen and the bullpen gets a lot better with Bundy and Hunter. Problem is next year when you have 7 starters.

I would suspect if the Orioles acquired Santana that they wouldn't be on the hook for his entire salary.

[crawjo]

At this point, none of these are really "bad contracts." Miley, Gallardo, and Jimenez are only signed through next year. We should definitely have interest in Santana. Depends what he costs, though.

[Bahama O's Fan]

If Angelos is willing to pay for Ervin I would have no problem with trading for him. You could move Bundy back to bullpen and the bullpen gets a lot better with Bundy and Hunter. Problem is next year when you have 7 starters.

Five starters and two long men

[crawjo]

If Angelos is willing to pay for Ervin I would have no problem with trading for him. You could move Bundy back to bullpen and the bullpen gets a lot better with Bundy and Hunter. Problem is next year when you have 7 starters.

Having too many starters is never a problem, especially when so many of them are shaky.

[Baltoravensrule]

If we combined all of our money that we have invested in mediocre veteran SPs and used it on a true top of the rotation pitcher, would we be a 1st place team?

[maybenxtyr]

At this point, none of these are really "bad contracts." Miley, Gallardo, and Jimenez are only signed through next year. We should definitely have interest in Santana. Depends what he costs, though.

Having any one of the contracts isn't a big deal...having 3 with the possibility of a fourth one is unsettling. I mean, the 3 we have now are the worst of them but Santana isn't a slam dunk in this division. If they could move one of the current contracts, I would be happy.

[Orioles4Life21]

If we combined all of our money that we have invested in mediocre veteran SPs and used it on a true top of the rotation pitcher, would we be a 1st place team?

Yes. But that starter would be signed for the next 6+ years, unlike Gallardo and Ubaldo who's deals are up after next year.

[Chavez Ravine]

Imagine us having 3 awful contracts in Gallardo, Ubaldo AND Santana...lol.

If he was on the open market next year, I think he gets 3 years 60 million with an opt out from the Dodgers... using last year's Kazmir contract as a comp.

[Bahama O's Fan]

Did he even clear waivers?

[crawjo]

Having any one of the contracts isn't a big deal...having 3 with the possibility of a fourth one is unsettling. I mean, the 3 we have now are the worst of them but Santana isn't a slam dunk in this division. If they could move one of the current contracts, I would be happy.

Given the lack of depth in the farm system and the lack of quality options on the free agent market this upcoming offseason, I would consider it a plus to add Santana to the mix. Again, I don't think it's a big deal as far as Miley, Gallardo and Jimenez are concerned. They will all be cleared off the books after 2017. If the Orioles want to compete next year, they should absolutely look to acquire Santana. We are desperate for pitching. Unless, of course, the goal is to rebuild, in which case none of this even matters.

[MDtransplant757]

Should have just signed Santana from the beginning. Lowest risk. Consistent. Guys like Ubaldo and Gallardo had severe red flags and risks.

I think this move works if we get rid of one of the two in a trade

[MDtransplant757]

If I'm DD this offseason, I try and unload Miley/Jimenez or both and possibly sign Jason Hammel back.

[MDK02]

Did he even clear waivers?

Santana? Yeah, pretty sure he did.

[Chavez Ravine]

Did he even clear waivers?

Santana? Yeah' date=' pretty sure he did.[/quote']

Yep:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/ervin-santana-clears-trade-waivers.html

[Tx Oriole]

Imagine us having 3 awful contracts in Gallardo, Ubaldo AND Santana...lol.

Imagine the O's winning the WS.