Orioles told Bautista's reps...Orioles fans don't like him

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, LA2 said:

Any idea whether Trumbo would be dissatisfied with being a full-time DH? (Not saying that would be his role, just wondering.)

Haven't heard anything.

 

[LA2]

I also ask because I noticed that Trumbo's career offensive stats are A LOT better when he's playing RF than when he's at first base, DH, or LF:

RF .272/.332/.523/.855 (907 PAs)

1B .248/.295/.466/.761 (1426)

DH .243/.303/.458/.761 (545)

LF .226/.272/.418/.690 (507)

[Can_of_corn]

Hard to tell if those numbers mean anything.  Most players do hit worse when in the DH role.

[LA2]

Whatever the reasons, Trumbo pretty closely reproduced the big difference last season with the O's:

RF .267 / .332 / .556 / .888 (398 PAs)

DH .243 / .296 / .496 / .791 (247 PAs)

(Insignificant number of plate appearances as first baseman and left fielder.)

Of course, a lot of his better hitting while playing RF is cancelled out by his weak defense out there.

[webbrick2010]

I like Bautista on a one year deal

too bad DD muddied the waters with his ridiculous our fans don't like you comment

I like Bautista for one year way more than Trumbo for 4

[backwardsk]

Just now, webbrick2010 said:

I like Bautista on a one year deal

too bad DD muddied the waters with his ridiculous our fans don't like you comment

I like Bautista for one year way more than Trumbo for 4

How much? He doesn't want less than the QO.  So you're cool with giving him $18M and you don't care about losing the pick?

[clapdiddy]

5 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

How much? He doesn't want less than the QO.  So you're cool with giving him $18M and you don't care about losing the pick?

What he wants and what he's offered are two different things.   I can't see anyone paying that guy $17M.  

That being said, it would still be very difficult for me to ever root for this guy.

 

[sportsfan8703]

5 hours ago, LA2 said:

Whatever the reasons, Trumbo pretty closely reproduced the big difference last season with the O's:

RF .267 / .332 / .556 / .888 (398 PAs)

DH .243 / .296 / .496 / .791 (247 PAs)

(Insignificant number of plate appearances as first baseman and left fielder.)

Of course, a lot of his better hitting while playing RF is cancelled out by his weak defense out there.

I'd chalk it up to his hot first half of the season.  He mostly played RF then.  Once we got Bourn he started DH'ing a lot more.  

[weams]

3 hours ago, clapdiddy said:

What he wants and what he's offered are two different things.   I can't see anyone paying that guy $17M.  

That being said, it would still be very difficult for me to ever root for this guy.

 

I'd rather have Delmon Young back than Bautista.

[25 Nuggets]

3 hours ago, backwardsk said:

How much? He doesn't want less than the QO.  So you're cool with giving him $18M and you don't care about losing the pick?

I would think, if you're losing a pick you want more years of control, especially at less AAV.

[25 Nuggets]

On 1/2/2017 at 5:08 PM, weams said:

Home Run Leader.  He'll sign next week. 

On 1/2/2017 at 5:09 PM, backwardsk said:

I'll hold you to it.

Chris Carter was a home run leader too -- could be him 

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, 25 Nuggets said:

I would think, if you're losing a pick you want more years of control, especially at less AAV.

How much is a mid first round pick worth?  15M?

[weams]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

How much is a mid first round pick worth?  15M?

I think you have to subtract the signing bonus. So maybe ~12.5?

[Can_of_corn]

8 minutes ago, weams said:

I think you have to subtract the signing bonus. So maybe ~12.5?

I can live with that valuation.

[weams]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

I can live with that valuation.

So over four years, its about an additional 3.1 million per season on top of what you pay the player. For a one year deal of over 17 million it would essentially be paying 30 million for one season. Since the pick can no longer be recouped.