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1 hour ago, weams said:

How so? What was his injury?

 

1 hour ago, Redskins Rick said:

He would have never got past the Oriole Doctors.

 

Not injury broken, but broken as a pitcher.  I wasn't suggesting injury, but his ability to be a pitcher started dropping quickly after his 2010 year.  His velocity dropped a few times over the next few years and whether it was mechanics or something else, he wasn't the guy the O's were hoping to get.

It sucks, because the writing was on the wall and at this point, it seems to have scared them away from signing any other pitcher to 4 year deal.   

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42 minutes ago, Spy Fox said:

Oof. His stock has sure fallen since the trade from LA. He'll be almost 27 with barely any MLB experience by the time he's back. 

Yep, he'll never be a free agent, nor will Honeywell for a very long time.

Honeywell was a little cheeky last year, and my guess is when he gets back on the hill next summer, he will again not get a cup of coffee.  Then, in April of 2020, Tampa will announce they're going to go with a 4-man rotation in April because of off days (and so they can keep control of Honeywell's 2026). 

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50 minutes ago, OrioleDog said:

Yep, he'll never be a free agent, nor will Honeywell for a very long time.

Honeywell was a little cheeky last year, and my guess is when he gets back on the hill next summer, he will again not get a cup of coffee.  Then, in April of 2020, Tampa will announce they're going to go with a 4-man rotation in April because of off days (and so they can keep control of Honeywell's 2026). 

 

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13 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

I'm guessing this is more of the new school they go five and hand it over to the bullpen and less the old school they all throw 250 innings.

I'm interested in seeing how the bullpen holds up and how they shuttle in new arms from the minors.

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Is he broke or really just messing with the media as suggested:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/3796/zack-greinke

Zack Greinke acknowledged after an intrasquad start Thursday that his velocity has been down the spring.
Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic clocked Greinke's fastball in the 84-86 mph range during that intrasquad outing and Greinke told Zach Buchanan of The Athletic afterwards that he has a "nagging feeling that he doesn't have it anymore." Greinke likes to toy with the media and he also tends to build velocity as the spring goes along, but this could be something to monitor. The 34-year-old right-hander registered a strong 3.20 ERA, 1.07 WHIP, and 215/45 K/BB ratio over 202 1/3 innings last season for the Diamondbacks.
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22 minutes ago, murph said:

Is he broke or really just messing with the media as suggested:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/3796/zack-greinke

Zack Greinke acknowledged after an intrasquad start Thursday that his velocity has been down the spring.
Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic clocked Greinke's fastball in the 84-86 mph range during that intrasquad outing and Greinke told Zach Buchanan of The Athletic afterwards that he has a "nagging feeling that he doesn't have it anymore." Greinke likes to toy with the media and he also tends to build velocity as the spring goes along, but this could be something to monitor. The 34-year-old right-hander registered a strong 3.20 ERA, 1.07 WHIP, and 215/45 K/BB ratio over 202 1/3 innings last season for the Diamondbacks.

I think this is probably a case of sarcasm not translating in print (and a reporter taking his comment way too literal). Greinke was REALLY good last season. 

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1 hour ago, wildbillhiccup said:

I think this is probably a case of sarcasm not translating in print (and a reporter taking his comment way too literal). Greinke was REALLY good last season. 

Probably, but the velo at 84-86 is interesting, may just not be going full out yet.  And here is another:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/mlb/9662/julian-merryweather

Indians RHP prospect Julian Merryweather will undergo Tommy John surgery on Friday.
The operation will be performed by Dr. Keith Meister. Surgery became inevitable when Merryweather sprained the UCL in his right elbow early on in camp. He'll be out for all of 2018 and perhaps longer. MLB.com ranks the right-hander as Cleveland's 16th-best prospect
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Athletics' Jharel Cotton Diagnosed With Sprained UCL
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 As Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle was among those to report (Twitter links), righty Jharel Cotton has been diagnosed with a sprained ulnar collateral ligament and strained flexor muscle. The diagnosis indicates that there is some amount of tearing to the UCL. It’s not yet known what treatment Cotton will undergo, though he’s slated to receive a second opinion before deciding. Any kind of surgical outcome would surely mean an extensive absence. Even a “primary repair” procedure, rather than full-blown Tommy John surgery, would likely put Cotton’s 2018 season in doubt.

 

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