With two weeks of ST to go, where are the O's?

[Can_of_corn]

2 hours ago, wildcard said:

Injuries and under performance happen.  Some teams may be in need on July and aren't right now.  And you are right about the draft choice that was tied to Trumbo.

Do you think that without the attached pick someone would have met or beat the offer the O's made?

 

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Ripken said:

It's a good thing we spent $200M on Davis and Trumbo.  

I am not more or less worried about those two contracts based off of the spring training results to date.

[Frobby]

Here are my big thoughts on spring training so far:

1.    I'm nervous about the starting pitching.    Tillman's injury is a real blow, and I don't see anyone we are counting on to be in the rotation who is really pitching well.   That could all turn on a dime in April, but I'd be much happier if Gausman, Bundy, Ubaldo, and Miley were all pitching well.    I'm also concerned that the most obvious candidates to replace Tillman haven't really stepped up.   The only reason Lee and Aquino are even in this conversation is that Wright, Wilson, Ynoa and Verrett have all looked pretty bad (well, Ynoa has looked meh).

2.   I'm really impressed with the depth Dan has brought in.   The Rule 5 guys have acquitted themselves well, we have able replacements at every infield spot, and the outfield candidates look good.    Buck's going to have tough choices about who to keep, and Norfolk should be stacked with guys who aren't star prospects but can fill in ably if we have injuries.    

3.   The bullpen will be stacked again.    Liranzo will be a force on this team when September rolls around, if not before.    

4.   I'm not quite sure what to make of the Pedro Alvarez experiment.

5.   I'm thinking we may see some trades at the end of the spring.     

[Can_of_corn]

37 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Here are my big thoughts on spring training so far:

1.    I'm nervous about the starting pitching.    Tillman's injury is a real blow, and I don't see anyone we are counting on to be in the rotation who is really pitching well.   That could all turn on a dime in April, but I'd be much happier if Gausman, Bundy, Ubaldo, and Miley were all pitching well.    I'm also concerned that the most obvious candidates to replace Tillman haven't really stepped up.   The only reason Lee and Aquino are even in this conversation is that Wright, Wilson, Ynoa and Verrett have all looked pretty bad (well, Ynoa has looked meh).

2.   I'm really impressed with the depth Dan has brought in.   The Rule 5 guys have acquitted themselves well, we have able replacements at every infield spot, and the outfield candidates look good.    Buck's going to have tough choices about who to keep, and Norfolk should be stacked with guys who aren't star prospects but can fill in ably if we have injuries.    

3.   The bullpen will be stacked again.    Liranzo will be a force on this team when September rolls around, if not before.    

4.   I'm not quite sure what to make of the Pedro Alvarez experiment.

5.   I'm thinking we may see some trades at the end of the spring.     

Anyone know how Givens has looked?  I don't stay up late enough to catch more than the first few innings of these west coast WBC games.

[wildcard]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Do you think that without the attached pick someone would have met or beat the offer the O's made?

 

I have no way of even guessing with any accuracy at all.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, wildcard said:

I have no way of even guessing with any accuracy at all.

Fair answer.

The slugger market was certainly...sluggish this year.

[wildcard]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

Here are my big thoughts on spring training so far:

1.    I'm nervous about the starting pitching.    Tillman's injury is a real blow, and I don't see anyone we are counting on to be in the rotation who is really pitching well.   That could all turn on a dime in April, but I'd be much happier if Gausman, Bundy, Ubaldo, and Miley were all pitching well.    I'm also concerned that the most obvious candidates to replace Tillman haven't really stepped up.   The only reason Lee and Aquino are even in this conversation is that Wright, Wilson, Ynoa and Verrett have all looked pretty bad (well, Ynoa has looked meh).

2.   I'm really impressed with the depth Dan has brought in.   The Rule 5 guys have acquitted themselves well, we have able replacements at every infield spot, and the outfield candidates look good.    Buck's going to have tough choices about who to keep, and Norfolk should be stacked with guys who aren't star prospects but can fill in ably if we have injuries.    

3.   The bullpen will be stacked again.    Liranzo will be a force on this team when September rolls around, if not before.    

4.   I'm not quite sure what to make of the Pedro Alvarez experiment.

5.   I'm thinking we may see some trades at the end of the spring.     

1. I don't understand why Buck as limited Aquino's innings.  He seem to be do the best of the candidate but is not being stretch out so far.  I have not heard that Buck is stretching out Nuno which would seem to be a good option.

5. Any guesses about what the trades might be? Starting pitching is the need.  But it is expensive and often unavailable.  Rule 5 trades/

[wildcard]

7 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

From Roch, it sounds like Mike Wright is still the favorite.  Seems like he's got some high level backers in Buck and Roger.

He had to pitch in  a B game to  go 4 innings. 

[weams]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

Anyone know how Givens has looked?  I don't stay up late enough to catch more than the first few innings of these west coast WBC games.

A lot like last year. He has been fortunate though. 

[weams]

1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

And?  I'm just telling you what I read.  Maybe ST results aren't as important to Buck as you thought.

At this point I have no idea on:

1) who the fifth starter is

2) if the Orioles figure a way to carry Tavarez or Santander or even both to start the season.

3) If Gentry makes the team

4) If Mancini makes the team

5) If Drake makes the team

Buck says they are not if you listen to what he really says. He makes fun of the guys who feast on spring fastballs. He reads the back of baseball cards a lot. 

[Tony-OH]

One thing to remember is the Orioles only need a 5th starter like 2 or 3 times in April. They may go with the extra player and with 11 pitchers.

 

[Tony-OH]

Just now, weams said:

Buck says they are not if you listen to what he really says. He makes fun of the guys who feast on spring fastballs. He reads the back of baseball cards a lot. 

Having a good spring when you are battling for a position is important, but you are absolutely right, Buck is all about the track record when it comes to his final decisions with Dan.

[Frobby]

49 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

From Roch, it sounds like Mike Wright is still the favorite.  Seems like he's got some high level backers in Buck and Roger.

Nolan Reimold sold Wright his pictures?

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Nolan Reimold sold Wright his pictures?

I think Nolan would have held out for a minor league deal before giving the pictures up.

[bobmc]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Nolan Reimold sold Wright his pictures?

Being "contrarian" again?  LOL