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1 hour ago, LA2 said:

Isn't he #3, behind Miley? (Not that that improves the outlook much.)

Miley's been awful lately.   Bottom line, we have Bundy and four guys who can't be trusted from one outing to the next.   

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I don't know about you all, but I will enjoy this win right now. I don't know how Ubaldo will do next start but I read and heard how he had been working with Ramon Martinez during his time in the pen. Ubaldo left the game to a standing ovation. 

The Grand Poo bah of the Ubaldo Jimenez Fan Club :clap::D

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18 hours ago, ORIOLE33 said:

Now that was a good pitched game. 7 innings, 4 hits and 2 runs? I'll take that every time. IMO, a good starter gets into the 7th. I'm not a huge fan of these 6 inning quality starts.

In 2017, if you're consistently getting into the 7th, you're a GREAT starter.

Ubaldo was Good Ubaldo yesterday. He does this, from time to time. Like his brilliant start against Cincy back in April. But it's not his norm, nor will it ever be.

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15 hours ago, BradyBunch said:

Then you aren't seeing what's being paid to pitchers. Arrieta is getting $15m. Ubaldo getting $13m a year at his age is actually pretty cheap.

Did you really just try to compare the Cy Young winner 2 years ago to Ubaldo Jimenez who has a 6.25 ERA this season

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14 minutes ago, OriolesFan2704 said:

Did you really just try to compare the Cy Young winner 2 years ago to Ubaldo Jimenez who has a 6.25 ERA this season

You're right that it's not a very apt comparison, though Arrieta (4.64 ERA) certainly isn't pitching like a $15 mm pitcher right now.     It will be interesting, if the rest of his season goes approximately like this, to see what kind of contract he commands in free agency this winter.    He may turn out to be a guy who had a relatively brief period of excellence but flamed out in his early 30's.     But I'm pretty sure his next contract will exceed Ubaldo's.

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15 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

Ubaldo was coming off a very good season when he got paid, though if I recall correctly, most people agreed that his last season with Cleveland was a fluke.

He didn't get paid as if anyone was expecting four seasons like 2013.     His contract reflected his inconsistency.     That said, he's been considerably worse than his contract.  

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23 hours ago, ChuckS said:

Ubaldo will always mix these good outings in.  But overall, there is always more bad than good. 

Best case scenario is that he goes on a nice little run here and we are able to flip him at the deadline. 

And the same for Tillman.  

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19 hours ago, Frobby said:

He didn't get paid as if anyone was expecting four seasons like 2013.     His contract reflected his inconsistency.     That said, he's been considerably worse than his contract.  

In 2013 he started off badly after two bad years before that. His ERA at the end of May was 5.57. End of June was 4.63. He had a great end of the year. The usual with Ubaldo even in that year was either good Ubaldo or bad Ubaldo. He has not put together a consistent season since 2010. 

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