O's in discussions with Cubs, Almora Jr appears to be the target.

[tntoriole]

2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

True, but at the time, PA wouldn't go over 3 years and over 10mil per year for SP.

I have to be honest, I read that Darvish is expected to get 5/150, which is crazy.

IMO, I have a hard time pay any pitcher that kind of money.

Thankfully, I am not in charge.

These modern players should erect monuments and temples to Curt Flood and Marvin Miller.  

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, tntoriole said:

These modern players should erect monuments and temples to Curt Flood and Marvin Miller.  

And Scott Boras, once free agent was allowed to occur.

[LookitsPuck]

11 hours ago, MDtransplant757 said:

Why make this move when you have Hays, Mullins, Stewart, Santander and Mancini? Go for pitching with the cubs 

I think because Santander and Stewart aren't exactly good outfielders by any stretch. Santander has health issues. 

Mancini is just Trumbo Part 2 (a younger Trumbo, of course) - see a below average defensive outfielder with an above average bat.

So that leaves Hays and Mullins. I'm not sold on Mullins.

I like Austin Hays. An OF of Hays, Jones and Almora would work well. It would require Mancini to go to DH and for Duquette to find a salary dump partner for Trumbo.

Which I dig. This club has been incredibly short sighted with this barrage of DHs masquerading as outfielders for years now. 

[tntoriole]

 

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, LookitsPuck said:

I think because Santander and Stewart aren't exactly good outfielders by any stretch. Santander has health issues. 

Mancini is just Trumbo Part 2 (a younger Trumbo, of course) - see a below average defensive outfielder with an above average bat.

So that leaves Hays and Mullins. I'm not sold on Mullins.

I like Austin Hays. An OF of Hays, Jones and Almora would work well. It would require Mancini to go to DH and for Duquette to find a salary dump partner for Trumbo.

Which I dig. This club has been incredibly short sighted with this barrage of DHs masquerading as outfielders for years now. 

Better that, than guys like De Aza and Parra, who was neither DH or OF material.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

No way the Cubs trade Almora straight up for Britton.  Trading Gausman makes no sense, the Orioles already need to find three starting pitchers before April.  

The Orioles have young outfielders in the minors, just say no to a Gausman for Almora swap.  

[wildcard]

3 hours ago, weams said:

Britton does not trade for a starting pitcher of value. 

He might if he is healthy this spring.

[Frobby]

9 minutes ago, wildcard said:

He might if he is healthy this spring.

Trades of major players during spring training are very rare.    When’s the last one you remember?

[weams]

39 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Trades of major players during spring training are very rare.    When’s the last one you remember?

They will wish to trade him PRE arbritration. 

[Redskins Rick]

55 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Trades of major players during spring training are very rare.    When’s the last one you remember?

I couldnt remember any, found this article from 2014 and it list 5 trades, and twice Jason Hammel was involved.

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/a-brief-history-of-spring-training-trades/

[Frobby]

10 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

I couldnt remember any, found this article from 2014 and it list 5 trades, and twice Jason Hammel was involved.

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/a-brief-history-of-spring-training-trades/

To me, the Guthrie for Hammel and Lindstrom trade doesn’t count as a spring training trade, as it took place on Feb. 6, before pitchers and catchers reported.   

[Can_of_corn]

2 hours ago, LookitsPuck said:

I think because Santander and Stewart aren't exactly good outfielders by any stretch. Santander has health issues. 

Mancini is just Trumbo Part 2 (a younger Trumbo, of course) - see a below average defensive outfielder with an above average bat.

So that leaves Hays and Mullins. I'm not sold on Mullins.

I like Austin Hays. An OF of Hays, Jones and Almora would work well. It would require Mancini to go to DH and for Duquette to find a salary dump partner for Trumbo.

Which I dig. This club has been incredibly short sighted with this barrage of DHs masquerading as outfielders for years now. 

Huh?

Where did you get this from?

The fact that his arm only allows him to play left?

Doesn't take much of a "stretch" at all to see that the metrics were rather kind to Stewart's outfield defense this year.

[weams]

23 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Huh?

Where did you get this from?

The fact that his arm only allows him to play left?

Doesn't take much of a "stretch" at all to see that the metrics were rather kind to Stewart's outfield defense this year.

It's likely that he is an above average MLB left fielder. 

[BohKnowsBmore]

4 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Trading away Jones and Britton wouldn't be rebuilding.  It was just be reallocating resources.  Relievers and OF's are actually two positions that we have prospect options, plus they're real close to being MLB ready.  We'd be in a much better position to compete next year with spending our money on top notch FA SP, rather than having it tied up in areas where we have some internal options.  

As of right now, we have the worst MLB SP's in baseball.  Adding FA's like Garcia and Doug Fister isn't going to move that needle enough.  We need to clear some money and go get Darvish.  Accept the fact that the farm is empty with MLB options for realistically the next two years.  Buy the arms, grow the bats.  

I slightly disagree here.  I think if we can add some average-ish pitchers we will be in a good spot.  Guasman and Bundy are a good 1/2.  We don't necessarily need an ace, we just need to replace the negative production we got from guys like Ubaldo with something decent at least.

[JohnD]

GAusmann and Bundy are 1/2 on bad teams.  Not if you’re trying to contend.  I’m all for getting Almora, but it’s gotta be independent of getting better pitching.  And the source for this seems dubious anyway.