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Matthew Edward Harvey - The Real Deal or Damaged Goods?


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1 minute ago, Frobby said:

I remember as a young lawyer staying out late very late on a Friday night/wee hours of Saturday morning, and then getting a call from a partner asking me to come into the office on Saturday afternnoon and work on a brief that was going to be due on Tuesday.    To say I was hung over when I took that call is an understatement — more accurately, I was still tipsy, having only slept a few hours.    But I took a shower, dragged my butt down to the office, and worked late into the night and pretty much round the clock until my brief got filed on Tuesday.    That’s the only time I ever had a night of partying affect my work — but of course, I had no idea I’d be working that Saturday.

I also walked three miles in a blinding snowstorm to go to school on a regular basis when I was a kid.   (OK, I never actually did that.)

I didn't say I never drank then went to work.  I've certainly done PT while hung over/still drunk.  I also remember flag duty one weekend in Germany where I wasn't sober.

But I went to work.

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2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I also walked three miles in a blinding snowstorm to go to school on a regular basis when I was a kid.   (OK, I never actually did that.)

I remember that day I caught up to you on Seven Mile Lane. You had a pretty good stride in the snow.

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17 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

 

If you think Harvey is going to be a -.9 pitcher, you don't give up anything at all for him.   In fact, you don't get him at all.    You get him with the idea that he's going to be a bona fide starting ML pitcher.   If there is a chance of that, you give up something to get him just like the Rangers are talking about Profar whose value is also down.   Darren O'Day is 35 years old and owed 2/18M over the next two years.   He appears to be in decline.   If you think Harvey is worthless than forget about getting him.   If you think he's worth something, then give up something for him.      

Yeah - I can't see giving up a reliable bullpen arm for a guy that most likely will be below replacement level. The Profar/Harvey trade makes sense because it's a swap of high-risk/high-reward guys.

Really good pitchers suddenly become permanently mediocre or terrible all of the time. Just off the top of my head: Lincecum, Cain, Liriano, Zimmerman. Even Ubaldo, for that matter. Can't really see Harvey putting it together again. He looks completely lost.

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Rut roh. Second report in less than 24 hours. Where there's smoke...

Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that the Orioles are discussing trading a reliever to the Mets for Matt Harvey.

Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports first mentioned earlier Monday that the O's were seen as one club that could make a play for Harvey. Rosenthal mentions that Harvey and Brad Brach are projected for similar salaries in their final arbitration years and that Darren O'Day is owed $18 million over the next two seasons. There's been a decent amount of smoke the last few days about the Mets listening to offers for Harvey.
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Dec 11 - 5:45 PM
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26 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

Rut roh. Second report in less than 24 hours. Where there's smoke...

Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that the Orioles are discussing trading a reliever to the Mets for Matt Harvey.

Jon Heyman of FanRag Sports first mentioned earlier Monday that the O's were seen as one club that could make a play for Harvey. Rosenthal mentions that Harvey and Brad Brach are projected for similar salaries in their final arbitration years and that Darren O'Day is owed $18 million over the next two seasons. There's been a decent amount of smoke the last few days about the Mets listening to offers for Harvey.
Related: Orioles
 
Dec 11 - 5:45 PM

Three words to any Matt Harvey trade talk:

Orioles

team

physical.

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