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Dan Duquette is adamant that the Orioles recieve two good starting pitchers in any Manny trade. He acted like that the Orioles have not received a trade prospal with two good starting pitchers in it. He said that he would like to have the trade wrapped up by the end of the day tomorrow. I believe it was masnsports.com that reported this. Does the Britton Injury mean that Manny will for sure be traded or does it mean that Manny will be an Oriole in 2018? Thoughts?

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A logical team would see the following:

The Orioles prior to Britton getting hurt and Machado getting traded (and any future acquisitions) are severe underdogs to make the playoffs in 2018. Let's pull a number out of our rears and say the likelihood of them making the playoffs is 10%.

The Orioles after Britton getting hurt means that everybody else in the bullpen have to step up in their roles: Brach, Givens, O'Day, etc. We saw in 2017 what a terrible rotation and an overtaxed, regression ripe bullpen did without Britton. So let's say the chances of making the playoffs drops to 7%.

You'd imagine that the percentage being so low and dropping should mean the O's should be *more* likely to trade Machado...not less.

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1 minute ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

Dan Duquette is adamant that the Orioles recieve two good starting pitchers in any Manny trade. He acted like that the Orioles have not received a trade prospal with two good starting pitchers in it. He said that he would like to have the trade wrapped up by the end of the day tomorrow. I believe it was masnsports.com that reported this. Does the Britton Injury mean that Manny will for sure be traded or does it mean that Manny will be an Oriole in 2018? Thoughts?

He'll be on the team 2018. And we all get to see him walk after that season. 

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32 minutes ago, LookitsPuck said:

A logical team would see the following:

The Orioles prior to Britton getting hurt and Machado getting traded (and any future acquisitions) are severe underdogs to make the playoffs in 2018. Let's pull a number out of our rears and say the likelihood of them making the playoffs is 10%.

The Orioles after Britton getting hurt means that everybody else in the bullpen have to step up in their roles: Brach, Givens, O'Day, etc. We saw in 2017 what a terrible rotation and an overtaxed, regression ripe bullpen did without Britton. So let's say the chances of making the playoffs drops to 7%.

You'd imagine that the percentage being so low and dropping should mean the O's should be *more* likely to trade Machado...not less.

Yes. Exactly this.  

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32 minutes ago, Diehard_O's_Fan said:

https://www.fanragsports.com/heyman-orioles-may-pull-many-machado-off-trading-block/

I think you linked to the wrong article. This is the one that addresses Britton's injury and how it may effect trading Machado. 

https://www.lockedonmlb.com/how-zach-brittons-injury-impacts-the-orioles/

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30 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

What should happen, Britton is nontendered and Machado is traded for what you can get this offseason.  With that said, I have this suspicion that Manny was never going anywhere unless it was for some absurd over payment that no one was ever going to offer.

The decision to tender Britton has come and gone.  He was tendered.  Now it goes through the arbitration process if they don't agree.  They can Miguel Gonzalez him, but they are still picking up a portion of that contract.

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48 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

What should happen, Britton is nontendered and Machado is traded for what you can get this offseason.  With that said, I have this suspicion that Manny was never going anywhere unless it was for some absurd over payment that no one was ever going to offer.

Britton can't be non-tendered at this time.  He is already set to go to arbitration.  He can be released, with the Orioles owing him 30 days pay.

 

EDIT*  Sorry backwardsk, I didn't see your post.  You beat me to it.  Didn't mean to step on your toes.  :)

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23 minutes ago, birdwatcher55 said:

So correct me if I'm wrong, he goes to arbitration and whatever he gets, he gets 1/6th of that if we cut him within 30 days?

That's my understanding.  I'm not sure that the fraction is exactly 1/6, but that's probably close enough for government work.

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