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2 minutes ago, MDtransplant757 said:

Wouldn't shock me if his options were pitch here or retire and he takes the latter. 

As I understand it, Dickey is leaning toward retirement and would only consider playing for a team reasonably close to his Tennessee home.  Pretty much limited to St. Louis, Cincinnati, and Atlanta, if at all.  Of course, athletes have been known to change their minds about retiring in the past, but I haven't seen any rumors about Dickey hinting at that.

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1 minute ago, Number5 said:

As I understand it, Dickey is leaning toward retirement and would only consider playing for a team reasonably close to his Tennessee home.  Pretty much limited to St. Louis, Cincinnati, and Atlanta, if at all.  Of course, athletes have been known to change their minds about retiring in the past, but I haven't seen any rumors about Dickey hinting at that.

He's 42. Him and Bartolo are older than dirt in terms of baseball. They should retire if they either don't want to do it or can't do it anymore. 

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20 hours ago, esmd said:

Wonder if they checked medicals on Arrietta or Cobb?  I mean seriously, if you're really going to keep Manny and let him walk as a FA, why not REALLY go all in and sign those guys and REALLY try and win a WS?  You can always trade those guys to reduce payroll after the season if you need to go that direction.  But for one year, one friggin year, put all your chips in and go for it.  But this one foot in, one foot out, hokey pokey BS is just another tiresome recipe for 4th place.  SMDH.

The thing replies to esmd seemed to leave out is his "for one year" comment.  Offer Arrietta, Darvish and Cobb/Lynn extra in a one year contract. Offer each of them 5 million over their multiyear asking price in a one year deal.  For instance, if one wants $20 mil per year for 4 years offer him $25 mil for one.  Promise them we won't trade Machado. The whole team goes out with a bang and leaves at the end of the year and we start over.

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31 minutes ago, oriolediehard said:

I am fighting a losing battle.  Everyone seems to be more concerned about defending the O's from what others who speak the truth than seeing the real issue.  Go ahead and blast me for saying it as it is.

OK, I will blast you, but not for the reason you think.   

Who exactly is this “everyone” you’re talking about?    The vast majority of posters believe the Orioles are not going to compete by taking half-measures to address the starting pitching.   You’re hardly the only one saying it, so I don’t know why you’re singling yourself out.    

The only issues are: (1) some people don’t think we’ll really compete even with a big pitching upgrade, and would rather rebuild, and (2) some people question if the team can really afford a big pitching upgrade from a financial point of view.   But hardly anyone here is arguing this team will compete without a big pitching upgrade.    

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3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

OK, I will blast you, but not for the reason you think.   

Who exactly is this “everyone” you’re talking about?    The vast majority of posters believe the Orioles are not going to compete by taking half-measures to address the starting pitching.   You’re hardly the only one saying it, so I don’t know why you’re singling yourself out.    

The only issues are: (1) some people don’t think we’ll really compete even with a big pitching upgrade, and would rather rebuild, and (2) some people question if the team can really afford a big pitching upgrade from a financial point of view.   But hardly anyone here is arguing this team will compete without a big pitching upgrade.    

(3) Some of us don't believe that the top end of the FA pitching market will come to Baltimore.

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4 minutes ago, Pheasants said:

The thing replies to esmd seemed to leave out is his "for one year" comment.  Offer Arrietta, Darvish and Cobb/Lynn extra in a one year contract. Offer each of them 5 million over their multiyear asking price in a one year deal.  For instance, if one wants $20 mil per year for 4 years offer him $25 mil for one.  Promise them we won't trade Machado. The whole team goes out with a bang and leaves at the end of the year and we start over.

I don't see a pitcher taking 1/25 over 4/80.

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4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

OK, I will blast you, but not for the reason you think.   

Who exactly is this “everyone” you’re talking about?    The vast majority of posters believe the Orioles are not going to compete by taking half-measures to address the starting pitching.   You’re hardly the only one saying it, so I don’t know why you’re singling yourself out.    

The only issues are: (1) some people don’t think we’ll really compete even with a big pitching upgrade, and would rather rebuild, and (2) some people question if the team can really afford a big pitching upgrade from a financial point of view.   But hardly anyone here is arguing this team will compete without a big pitching upgrade.    

Good post.

IMO, the Orioles are not willing to rebuild in DD and Buck's last year, they want to complete and not happy with the medicals on some of the FAs and aren't allowed to go after the big names. DD has said in the past, he would would rather retool by adding a body or too to his core.

So that leaves them hoping to strike gold with the youngsters like Cortes.

I dont think they need a major pitching upgrade, but I believe they still need a couple of more bodies capable of pitching in the big leagues. They won in the past without stellar pitching.

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