Schoop absence from Fanfest

[Redskins Rick]

Just now, weams said:

Grich = Jeter.  Except for that last year. 

??????

Grich was skilled with the glove and Jeter is not.

 

[interloper]

21 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Is the record for most HBP by an Oriole second baseman historic?

Yea, counting stats don't really do it for me. 

They don't need to do it for you. They do it for things like arbitration court and the media and casual fans, and that's why I mentioned it. 

Despite the home run totals, his rWAR as you noted yourself, is still one of the best in the last 40 years by a second baseman. Not the best, but what, top 3 or 4? I'd say that's significant for someone who doesn't like counting stats. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, interloper said:

They don't need to do it for you. They do it for things like arbitration court and the media and casual fans, and that's why I mentioned it. 

Despite the home run totals, his rWAR as you noted yourself, is still one of the best in the last 40 years by a second baseman. Not the best, but what, top 3 or 4? I'd say that's significant for someone who doesn't like counting stats. 

Sure it's significant, I mentioned what a nice season he had.

My issue was with the word historic. 

I think that is overstating the issue.

Right now he is a nice player that has one great season under his belt.

[interloper]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Sure it's significant, I mentioned what a nice season he had.

My issue was with the word historic. 

I think that is overstating the issue.

Right now he is a nice player that has one great season under his belt.

Yeah, fair enough.

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, interloper said:

They wouldn't have had much of a case in an arbitration trial. He's already historically good in terms of Orioles second baseman, offensively. I doubt the O's wanted to go to $8.5, but they stood to be on the hook for $9, with a potential black mark on the O's arb record to boot.

Hooray for decisions being made.

I think they had a good chance to win the arbitration trial, for reasons I’ve explained in a lot of detail in other posts.    Saying that, I always hoped they would settle, and while I think $8.5 mm is slightly on the generous side, I’m fine with it.   Now get Gausman done.    

[interloper]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I think they had a good chance to win the arbitration trial, for reasons I’ve explained in a lot of detail in other posts.    Saying that, I always hoped they would settle, and while I think $8.5 mm is slightly on the generous side, I’m fine with it.   Now get Gausman done.    

Surprise, surprise... it's the same agency Schoop uses. Maybe a reason why both have held out, but also maybe reason to hope Gausman's settlement is soon to follow.

[weams]

27 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

??????

Grich was skilled with the glove and Jeter is not.

 

WAR. What is it good for. 

[Enjoy Terror]

6 minutes ago, weams said:

WAR. What is it good for. 

Lending new hall of fame cases to light hitting defensive wizards.

[Redskins Rick]

7 minutes ago, weams said:

WAR. What is it good for. 

Thumbs up.

Great Movie!

 

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, Enjoy Terror said:

Lending new hall of fame cases to light hitting defensive wizards.

Career .794 OPS

[Enjoy Terror]

Just now, Redskins Rick said:

Career .794 OPS

That was a generalized statement and not about Grich.

[Il BuonO]

32 minutes ago, interloper said:

They don't need to do it for you. They do it for things like arbitration court and the media and casual fans, and that's why I mentioned it. 

Despite the home run totals, his rWAR as you noted yourself, is still one of the best in the last 40 years by a second baseman. Not the best, but what, top 3 or 4? I'd say that's significant for someone who doesn't like counting stats. 

In the last 40 years Alomar had RC 125 in 1993 and he’s #20 on the list. Schoop’s RC last year was 101.

[interloper]

3 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

In the last 40 years Alomar had RC 125 in 1993 and he’s #20 on the list. Schoop’s RC last year was 101.

I was going by CoC's rWAR numbers. Certainly one can cherry pick any stat they like to determine how they value a player.

[interloper]

8 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

In the last 40 years Alomar had RC 125 in 1993 and he’s #20 on the list. Schoop’s RC last year was 101.

Also... he was playing for Toronto in' 93. Our discussion was clearly about Oriole second baseman.

[Il BuonO]

2 minutes ago, interloper said:

Also... he was playing for Toronto in' 93. Our discussion was clearly about Oriole second baseman.

You said one of the best 2B in the last 40 years. You didn’t specify Orioles. I selected RC because it wasn’t WAR. And again, you selecting HRs to further your argument seems more like cherry picking. Schoop’s season can only be called ‘historic’ if you were talking Orioles. And even then, CoC provided enough examples to show it wasn’t, but whatever.