Where is the starter market? Where are the O's?

[MDtransplant757]

 

[Luke-OH]

10 minutes ago, MDtransplant757 said:

 

 

[SteveA]

I guess Mr. Darvish didn't want to report to the free agent Refugee Camp in Bradenton

 

[Can_of_corn]

No one doubted that Darvish would eventually get paid.

Hopefully this quiets down the talk of collusion.

Very interesting that the team most familiar with Jake would decide on a different free agent TOR guy.

[backwardsk]

People talk about Harper to the Cubs in 2019.  This deal will make it tough for them if they don't want to live in the luxury tax world.

Their 2019 rotation alone could cost them 85-$88M

Lester $27.5

Darvish $21

Chatwood $12.5

Quintana $10.5

Smiley $7

Hendricks arb 2

[El Gordo]

Good lord! 35 M AAV? They are going to be so sorry. Does any one think Dan should have offered this?

[SteveA]

3 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

Good lord! 35 M AAV? They are going to be so sorry. Does any one think Dan should have offered this?

I think your math is off a bit.

[Luke-OH]

It's 21M AAV just to clarify.

[El Gordo]

Just now, Luke-OH said:

It's 21M AAV just to clarify.

Still dumb.

[oriole]

This sets up Cobb to the O's nicely

[Frobby]

12 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

Good lord! 35 M AAV? They are going to be so sorry. Does any one think Dan should have offered this?

Where are you getting $35 mm AAV?   6/$126 = $21 mm/yr plus incentives.  

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, El Gordo said:

Still dumb.

Goes to show, slow market does not necessarily mean drastically lower prices.    

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Goes to show, slow market does not necessarily mean drastically lower prices.    

Incentives can bump it up to 150.

[Frobby]

7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Incentives can bump it up to 150.

Worth noting: MLBTR had Darvish at 6/$160 mm, Dave Cameron had predicted 6/$168 mm, while fangraphs’ crowdsource had him at 5/$125 mm.    So by those standards, Darvish is coming cheap.   But I think those estimates were always on the high side considering Darvish’s injury history.  

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/2017-18-top-50-mlb-free-agents-with-predictions.html

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2018-top-50-free-agents/

[MurphDogg]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

No one doubted that Darvish would eventually get paid.

Hopefully this quiets down the talk of collusion.

Very interesting that the team most familiar with Jake would decide on a different free agent TOR guy.

This doesn't quiet talk of collusion for me. Darvish only getting 21M a year is pretty surprising.