Worse contract-Hosmer or Davis

[atomic]

So evidently Royals offered 5 years and 100 million to Hosmer.  

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, MDtransplant757 said:

Davis was worth 14.6 bWAR when he signed the deal

Hosmer was worth 14.1 bWAR when he signed this deal

Going to go with hosmer due to length

Also, he’s two years younger.   That’s very important.   Davis deal was somewhat worse at the time it was signed, and probably a lot worse in hindsight.    

[DrungoHazewood]

1 hour ago, MDtransplant757 said:

Davis was worth 14.6 bWAR when he signed the deal

Hosmer was worth 14.1 bWAR when he signed this deal

Going to go with hosmer due to length

Maybe I'm biased, but we saw Davis put up two fringy MVP-ish seasons prior to his deal.  Both over 5.0 wins.  Hosmer's best season was four.  Hosmer was arguably the 6th-best first baseman in baseball in his career year, and that somehow warrants an 8-year deal way over $100M? 

[Tony-OH]

Every time you think baseball execs have smartened up, one team comes in and gives out another huge dumb contract.

[MDtransplant757]

1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

Every time you think baseball execs have smartened up, one team comes in and gives out another huge dumb contract.

What's dumber is that the Padres already have a 1B in Will Myers

[BohKnowsBmore]

22 hours ago, backwardsk said:

Machado has been worth 8 rWAR more than Longoria at this point in his career.

Further Manny has 3 seasons at 6.7 rWAR or better so far (5.5 seasons in).  Longo has only had one season in his entire career at 6.0.

[Fan4Life]

23 hours ago, ChuckS said:

This is worse than the Davis' deal if you are evaluating both at the time of signing.  Both horrible, horrendous deals but Hosmer's gets the edge because he's not coming off the monster season Davis was. 

What is worse right now?  Tough to say.  But I'd take my chances on eight years of Hosmer at 144 rather than five years of Davis at 115 or whatever is left on it. 

Hosmer gets to opt out after year 5... and is heavily front loaded...which makes his deal worse. 

[BohKnowsBmore]

2 hours ago, MDtransplant757 said:

What's dumber is that the Padres already have a 1B in Will Myers

I assume he'll move back to COF, no?

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

5 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Maybe I'm biased, but we saw Davis put up two fringy MVP-ish seasons prior to his deal.  Both over 5.0 wins.  Hosmer's best season was four.  Hosmer was arguably the 6th-best first baseman in baseball in his career year, and that somehow warrants an 8-year deal way over $100M? 

They're both bad contracts.  Davis had the upside for a monster season,  but that might be gone now.  Hosmer is more consistent, but he is very likely to put up pedestrian numbers at Petco Park.  

[Ripken]

...and then we see what JD got in Boston.

I hate our front office / owner.

[Frobby]

31 minutes ago, Fan4Life said:

Hosmer gets to opt out after year 5... and is heavily front loaded...which makes his deal worse. 

The way I see it, he only opts out if he’s still producing well 5 years from now, so that still works.    He gets $21 mm/yr the first five years, still less than Davis’ $23 mm/yr (though with Davis’ deferred comp, it’s pretty close).

[wildbillhiccup]

14 minutes ago, Ripken said:

...and then we see what JD got in Boston.

I hate our front office / owner.

So you were expecting them to sign JD Martinez...and you think that would have been a good move for a team that already has too many DH type players? 

[bpilktree67]

22 hours ago, atomic said:

Last 3 years 17.3 WAR Vs 16.4 WAR.   Seems pretty similar.   

Because War loves Heyward why that stat by itself is useless.  There is no baseball person that things Heyward is even in the same category as Manny.  

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 hour ago, wildbillhiccup said:

So you were expecting them to sign JD Martinez...and you think that would have been a good move for a team that already has too many DH type players? 

Probably was more of a commentary on the disparity between CD's contract and what JD Martinez got from Boston.  

[Moose Milligan]

If factoring in Davis getting that big contract probably kept us from keeping Manny...it's Davis all day.