Off Limits?

[Greg Pappas]

In your view, are there any Orioles players or prospects that are virtually untouchable in regards to trading them?

I say virtually, because hypothetically any player can be had for an overpay. But reasonably, who has enough value to you to consider them off limits?

I'm adding the 40-man roster as a reference.

PITCHERS
NO.	NAME	POS	BAT	THW	AGE	HT	WT	BIRTH PLACE	SALARY
38	Pedro Araujo	RP	R	R	24	6-3	215	San Cristobal, Dominican Republic	N/A
48	Richard Bleier	RP	L	L	31	6-3	215	Davie, FL	N/A
35	Brad Brach	RP	R	R	32	6-6	215	Freehold, NJ	N/A
37	Dylan Bundy	SP	B	R	25	6-1	200	Owasso, OK	N/A
54	Andrew Cashner	SP	R	R	31	6-6	235	Conroe, TX	N/A
50	Miguel Castro	RP	R	R	23	6-7	205	La Romana, Dominican Republic	N/A
17	Alex Cobb	SP	R	R	30	6-3	205	Boston, MA	N/A
34	Kevin Gausman	SP	L	R	27	6-3	190	Centennial, CO	N/A
60	Mychal Givens	RP	R	R	28	6-0	210	Tampa, FL	N/A
41	David Hess	RP	R	R	24	6-2	180	Tullahoma, TN	N/A
56	Darren O'Day	RP	R	R	35	6-4	220	Smyrna, GA	N/A
66	Tanner Scott	RP	R	L	23	6-2	220	Mogadore, OH	N/A
30	Chris Tillman	SP	R	R	30	6-5	200	Fountain Valley, CA	N/A
43	Mike Wright Jr.	RP	R	R	28	6-6	215	Laurinburg, NC	N/A
CATCHERS
NO.	NAME	POS	BAT	THW	AGE	HT	WT	BIRTH PLACE	SALARY
15	Chance Sisco	C	L	R	23	6-2	195	Corona, CA	N/A
27	Andrew Susac	C	R	R	28	6-1	215	Roseville, CA	N/A
INFIELDERS
NO.	NAME	POS	BAT	THW	AGE	HT	WT	BIRTH PLACE	SALARY
24	Pedro Alvarez	1B	L	R	31	6-3	235	Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic	N/A
19	Chris Davis	1B	L	R	32	6-3	230	Dallas, TX	N/A
13	Manny Machado	SS	R	R	25	6-3	180	Miami, FL	N/A
29	Jace Peterson	2B	L	R	28	6-0	210	Lake Charles, LA	N/A
3	Luis Sardinas	SS	B	R	25	6-1	150	Ciudad Bolivar, Venezuela	N/A
6	Jonathan Schoop	2B	R	R	26	6-1	225	Curacao, Netherland Antilles	N/A
2	Danny Valencia	3B	R	R	33	6-2	210	Miami, FL	N/A
OUTFIELDERS
NO.	NAME	POS	BAT	THW	AGE	HT	WT	BIRTH PLACE	SALARY
14	Craig Gentry	RF	R	R	34	6-2	190	Fort Smith, AR	N/A
10	Adam Jones	CF	R	R	32	6-2	225	San Diego, CA	N/A
16	Trey Mancini	LF	R	R	26	6-4	215	Winter Haven, FL	N/A
28	Colby Rasmus	LF	L	L	31	6-2	195	Columbus, GA	N/A
23	Joey Rickard	RF	R	L	27	6-1	185	Las Vegas, NV	N/A
DESIGNATED HITTERS
NO.	NAME	POS	BAT	THW	AGE	HT	WT	BIRTH PLACE	SALARY
45	Mark Trumbo	DH	R	R	32	6-4	225	Anaheim, CA	N/A

 

[Can_of_corn]

I'm not particularly interested in trading any of the prospects.

I'd rather not trade Sisco or Scott since they have at least five years of team control left.

Anyone else, sure.

[Greg Pappas]

9 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm not particularly interested in trading any of the prospects.

I'd rather not trade Sisco or Scott since they have at least five years of team control left.

Anyone else, sure.

Yes, those two are keepers. I like Castro's potential, as well.

[Beef Supreme]

If they are going to blow it up, trade anybody and everybody at AA or above...except Hunter Harvey.

[weams]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I'm not particularly interested in trading any of the prospects.

I'd rather not trade Sisco or Scott since they have at least five years of team control left.

Anyone else, sure.

No. None of them for me either. 

[weams]

1 minute ago, Beef Supreme said:

If they are going to blow it up, trade anybody and everybody at AA or above...except Hunter Harvey.

Disagree. Prospects are prospects. Just because we don't care for them because they are ours is no reason to swap them out. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

If they are going to blow it up, trade anybody and everybody at AA or above...except Hunter Harvey.

That's more extreme than I am willing to go.

[Beef Supreme]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Disagree. Prospects are prospects. Just because we don't care for them because they are ours is no reason to swap them out. 

It's not that I "don't care for them because they are ours," it is because I want to acquire middle infielders and starters. An everyday Centerfielder, too with a good bat. Other than Harvey, which of our prospects qualifies? If trading Sisco or Mullins or Mountcastle or Mancini or Stewart or Hays helps me do that, then I do it. I am not suggesting we cut those players or give them away for MiL relievers.

[atomic]

I would keep Sisco and anyone else can go.   Other than Bundy and Gausman I dont see anyone really helping us win games going forward.   Unfortunately they are probably are best trade chips. 

[Tx Oriole]

2 hours ago, Greg Pappas said:

In your view, are there any Orioles players or prospects that are virtually untouchable in regards to trading them?

I say virtually, because hypothetically any player can be had for an overpay. But reasonably, who has enough value to you to consider them off limits?

I'm adding the 40-man roster as a reference.

PITCHERS
NO.	NAME	POS	BAT	THW	AGE	HT	WT	BIRTH PLACE	SALARY
38	Pedro Araujo	RP	R	R	24	6-3	215	San Cristobal, Dominican Republic	N/A
48	Richard Bleier	RP	L	L	31	6-3	215	Davie, FL	N/A
35	Brad Brach	RP	R	R	32	6-6	215	Freehold, NJ	N/A
37	Dylan Bundy	SP	B	R	25	6-1	200	Owasso, OK	N/A
54	Andrew Cashner	SP	R	R	31	6-6	235	Conroe, TX	N/A
50	Miguel Castro	RP	R	R	23	6-7	205	La Romana, Dominican Republic	N/A
17	Alex Cobb	SP	R	R	30	6-3	205	Boston, MA	N/A
34	Kevin Gausman	SP	L	R	27	6-3	190	Centennial, CO	N/A
60	Mychal Givens	RP	R	R	28	6-0	210	Tampa, FL	N/A
41	David Hess	RP	R	R	24	6-2	180	Tullahoma, TN	N/A
56	Darren O'Day	RP	R	R	35	6-4	220	Smyrna, GA	N/A
66	Tanner Scott	RP	R	L	23	6-2	220	Mogadore, OH	N/A
30	Chris Tillman	SP	R	R	30	6-5	200	Fountain Valley, CA	N/A
43	Mike Wright Jr.	RP	R	R	28	6-6	215	Laurinburg, NC	N/A
CATCHERS
NO.	NAME	POS	BAT	THW	AGE	HT	WT	BIRTH PLACE	SALARY
15	Chance Sisco	C	L	R	23	6-2	195	Corona, CA	N/A
27	Andrew Susac	C	R	R	28	6-1	215	Roseville, CA	N/A
INFIELDERS
NO.	NAME	POS	BAT	THW	AGE	HT	WT	BIRTH PLACE	SALARY
24	Pedro Alvarez	1B	L	R	31	6-3	235	Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic	N/A
19	Chris Davis	1B	L	R	32	6-3	230	Dallas, TX	N/A
13	Manny Machado	SS	R	R	25	6-3	180	Miami, FL	N/A
29	Jace Peterson	2B	L	R	28	6-0	210	Lake Charles, LA	N/A
3	Luis Sardinas	SS	B	R	25	6-1	150	Ciudad Bolivar, Venezuela	N/A
6	Jonathan Schoop	2B	R	R	26	6-1	225	Curacao, Netherland Antilles	N/A
2	Danny Valencia	3B	R	R	33	6-2	210	Miami, FL	N/A
OUTFIELDERS
NO.	NAME	POS	BAT	THW	AGE	HT	WT	BIRTH PLACE	SALARY
14	Craig Gentry	RF	R	R	34	6-2	190	Fort Smith, AR	N/A
10	Adam Jones	CF	R	R	32	6-2	225	San Diego, CA	N/A
16	Trey Mancini	LF	R	R	26	6-4	215	Winter Haven, FL	N/A
28	Colby Rasmus	LF	L	L	31	6-2	195	Columbus, GA	N/A
23	Joey Rickard	RF	R	L	27	6-1	185	Las Vegas, NV	N/A
DESIGNATED HITTERS
NO.	NAME	POS	BAT	THW	AGE	HT	WT	BIRTH PLACE	SALARY
45	Mark Trumbo	DH	R	R	32	6-4	225	Anaheim, CA	N/A

 

I don't think any player should be off limits at this point. 

[Frobby]

I’d trade anyone.    It just depends on what’s coming back.   

[MagicBird]

2 hours ago, atomic said:

I would keep Sisco and anyone else can go.   Other than Bundy and Gausman I dont see anyone really helping us win games going forward.   Unfortunately they are probably are best trade chips. 

I'd be willing to trade Bundy and Gausman if we got a decent return.  Both have been a disappointment overall so its hard to know what they would return.  

[Aristotelian]

I'd like to keep Bundy. We would have to be getting a Vlad Jr type of player back for me to consider trading him.

[weams]

2 hours ago, Beef Supreme said:

It's not that I "don't care for them because they are ours," it is because I want to acquire middle infielders and starters. An everyday Centerfielder, too with a good bat. Other than Harvey, which of our prospects qualifies? If trading Sisco or Mullins or Mountcastle or Mancini or Stewart or Hays helps me do that, then I do it. I am not suggesting we cut those players or give them away for MiL relievers.

There are no prospect for prospect trades made.  Now, I am sure you can find one. But no. That's not what teams do. 

[Rene88]

2 hours ago, Tx Oriole said:

I don't think any player should be off limits at this point. 

Spot on.

but we are talking about the Orioles here...so my guess is in the Orioles mind it is Schoop, Mancini, Givens, Scott, Gausman and Bundy.