Nashville Orioles???

[wildbillhiccup]

4 minutes ago, survivedc said:

While it’s true that the population as a whole has been declining, the millennial population as well as the concentration of that population in waterfront neighborhoods (Federal Hill, Canton, Fells Pt) has continued to climb. 

I think it’s reasonable to expect that in the next decade this will have a spillover effect outside of these 3 neighborhoods, and the population as a whole will hopefully turn around.

I was just in Harbor East this weekend (i.e., near Central Ave.) and noticed that they were building a TON of new condos. They wouldn't be building them if they didn't think they could sell / rent them. Agree with you 100%. The nicer parts of the City are continuing to grow. It's just a shame there's such a hard divide between good Baltimore (East) and bad Baltimore (West). 

[Punchandjudy]

3 hours ago, TommyPickles said:

Also, many East Coast cities, like Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Atlanta are rapidly growing, as more and more college-educated millennials opt to buy houses in and around them, instead of moving out to the suburbs.

This statement isn’t remotely close to the truth in the case of Baltimore.  The city continues to hemorrhage people, the housing market is declining.  I’m all for keeping the O’s here, but there are facts and then there is this statement.  I’ve lived here for 43 years.  I own two houses, one of which I spent 6 months trying to sell unsuccessfully because the rental market is strong.  The market for home sales keeps showing home values decreasing while home values in the rest of the country increases.  Sure millennials are renting but they are putting roots down in the community.  

As for the article, I think it’s mainly clickbait.  Camden Yards is a crown jewel in the pantheon of ballparks.  The Baltimore media market is a top 30 market in the US and that doesn’t factor in the greater viewing area reaching from Harrisburg/York extending down to Charlotte.  Remove Baltimore from MLB and you risk a huge potential boycott of the game which certainly would impact the bottom line as these fans allegiances certainly would not transfer geographically if at all.

I believe expansion is a greater possibility at this point for Nashville, Vegas, or San Antonio as I believe MLB would look more to add to its base than risk potentially turning off one of the biggest media markets in the country. 

[wildbillhiccup]

3 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

i think Locust Point is the fastest growing among millennials.  The city needs some new people in government. Been terrible for years.

I think I'd settle for just a non corrupt Mayor. 

[Punchandjudy]

2 minutes ago, wildbillhiccup said:

I think I'd settle for just a non corrupt Mayor. 

To paraphrase Jack Nicholson’s joker: this town needs an enema! 

[Il BuonO]

3 hours ago, TINSTAAPP said:

FWIW, the Baltimore Post-Examiner is owned by Phillip Anschutz who is known for owning newspapers that are right-wing tabloids. 

What does an article that speculates on a potential franchise moving have to do with the owner of the paper and his political views? 

There’s no political slant to the story. 

[incubus]

5 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

This is probably going to turn into a crime thread but it’s true. All we do is talk about numbers and statistics here, well the numbers don’t lie here either. 

Yeah but the crime isn’t happening with much frequency around the stadiums. OPACY isn’t on the west side. But not coming to spend money downtown is only going to exacerbate the problem. The county depends on the city, they have a symbiotic relationship, so we need to look out for each other.

[Going Underground]

6 minutes ago, Punchandjudy said:

To paraphrase Jack Nicholson’s joker: this town needs an enema! 

Sad because some parts of the city are building like crazy and looks like any other young people city and the other part looks like they just bombed London in WW2.

[survivedc]

19 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

i think Locust Point is the fastest growing among millennials.  The city needs some new people in government. Been terrible for years.

100%. I often lump Locust Point and Fed together for simplicity but LP is definitely unique. Was over there a few weeks ago and was blown away by the amount of young families with kids I saw out and about.

[Legend_Of_Joey]

4 hours ago, interloper said:

No chance. 

You don't think Sisco would join them in Memphis?

[tntoriole]

3 hours ago, weams said:

Without a lease? No. I've been a poster who has warned about 2021 for a long while. I was a Portland speculator myself. But I'd go see them in Nashville. Or Asheville. 

Court of public opinion then...antitrust legislation, hearings,  saber rattling...this ain’t the NFL with the Indianapolis Colts  or the NBA with the Utah Jazz ..MLB’s brand overall involves history, continuity and myth much more than the other sports .not to be had in Nashville Orioles...or Charlotte ...and Asheville is a way too small location

Expansion?  Sure...OK...but an empty Camden Yards and a ghostly presence left in the birthplace of Babe Ruth?   Nah... 

And if they left?...under no circumstances would I ever watch, set foot in or have anything to do with MLB ever again.   It took me until the first Super Bowl and my son having an interest to root for the Ravens, but, before then I had nothing to do with the NFL after the Colts left...and my heart for the Baltimore Orioles is even infinitely larger than it was for the Baltimore Colts....it would never be possible for me. 

 

[Tony-OH]

We are walking a fine line on politics in this post. I won't delete any, but let's keep it to the Orioles. It's fine to talk about the problems of Baltimore with discussing it's leadership or the types of news organization which ends up political.

Thank you for your cooperation.

[DrungoHazewood]

33 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

Court of public opinion then...antitrust legislation, hearings,  saber rattling...this ain’t the NFL with the Indianapolis Colts  or the NBA with the Utah Jazz ..MLB’s brand overall involves history, continuity and myth much more than the other sports .not to be had in Nashville Orioles...or Charlotte ...and Asheville is a way too small location

Expansion?  Sure...OK...but an empty Camden Yards and a ghostly presence left in the birthplace of Babe Ruth?   Nah... 

And if they left?...under no circumstances would I ever watch, set foot in or have anything to do with MLB ever again.   It took me until the first Super Bowl and my son having an interest to root for the Ravens, but, before then I had nothing to do with the NFL after the Colts left...and my heart for the Baltimore Orioles is even infinitely larger than it was for the Baltimore Colts....it would never be possible for me. 

 

I think history of a fanbase plays a much larger role than many would assume.  In any sport, but perhaps more in baseball.  It takes a very long time for a franchise to develop deep roots, to develop the resiliency to overcome down periods, to have long shared memories.  There has been a team called the Baltimore Orioles for all but a small handful of seasons (I think just 1900 and 1915) since 1882.  You can't invent that overnight, and no team in Nashville or Las Vegas is going to have that cultural history until the mid 2100s.  I would hope MLB isn't so short-sighted as to allow that to disappear because the team and the city are having something of a temporary down period.

[weams]

[Redskins Rick]

Been gone for 2 months, and I see things in OH doesn't change, we still complain about crime and the city.

Regardless of what is happening around the rest of the US of A.

 

[Can_of_corn]

 You were gone?