The Astros and Red Sox Punishments

[Absltgreek]

5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Wow, pretty stiff.     It’ll be interesting to see what happens with Boston.   

Given how often Cora is mentioned, I'd say harsher penalty. Anywhere from 2 years minimum to lifetime i'd bet.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

1 minute ago, MurphDogg said:

 

Whoa, I heard about the suspensions driving home didn't think they would be fired this quick. 

[weams]

3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I read this on Jeff Passan’s twitter feed:

“Announce Cora to Baltimore as punishment.”

And then:

“Whoa we’re a civilized society here pal.”

Sorry for the changes in type size.    I don’t know how to fix that on my phone.   

 

[Going Underground]

1 minute ago, weams said:

 

May need a bigger boat. So the Astros books now written will not be the fluff books that were written about them.

[weams]

7 minutes ago, Absltgreek said:

Given how often Cora is mentioned, I'd say harsher penalty. Anywhere from 2 years minimum to lifetime i'd bet.

Cora is fired as well.

 

[Going Underground]

4 minutes ago, weams said:

 

Crane gave them the Stalag 17 treatment. I guess Schultz did see something. 

[Going Underground]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Cora is fired as well.

 

Cora also fired? 

[Moose Milligan]

Oh please let Cora be fired.  Smug prick.

[LookinUp]

I hope Crane doesn't call Sig and offer him the GM job. If I were him, I'd at least be considering that.

[weams]

2 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

Cora also fired? 

My best guess. Once his punishment is announced of course. 

[weams]

Just now, Moose Milligan said:

Oh please let Cora be fired.  Smug prick.

He'll have to be. 

[Frobby]

Manfred’s official findings can be found here: https://img.mlbstatic.com/mlb-images/image/upload/mlb/cglrhmlrwwbkacty27l7.pdf

No mention of Elias or Sig.     The following comment was interesting:

 

“Finally, I will make some general observations regarding the Astros’ baseball operations department that were gleaned from the 68 interviews my investigators conducted in addition to the nine interviews conducted regarding a separate investigation into former Assistant General Manager Brandon Taubman’s conduct during a clubhouse celebration. Like many Clubs with very experienced individuals running their baseball operations departments, Astros owner Jim Crane and his senior executive team spent their energies focused on running the business side of the Club while delegating control and discretion on the baseball side to Luhnow. And it is difficult to question that division of responsibilities in light of the fact that Luhnow is widely considered to be one of the most successful baseball executives of his generation, credited with ushering in the second “analytics” revolution in baseball and rebuilding the Houston Astros into a perennial Postseason contender. But while no one can dispute that Luhnow’s baseball operations department is an industry leader in its analytics, it is very clear to me that the culture of the baseball operations department, manifesting itself in the way its employees are treated, its relations with other Clubs, and its relations with the media and external stakeholders, has been very problematic. At least in my view, the baseball operations department’s insular culture – one that valued and rewarded results over other considerations, combined with a staff of individuals who often lacked direction or sufficient oversight, led, at least in part, to the Brandon Taubman incident, the Club’s admittedly inappropriate and inaccurate response to that incident, and finally, to an environment that allowed the conduct described in this report to have occurred.”

[interloper]

5 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

Cora also fired? 

Not confirmed yet. You would have to assume though.

[Going Underground]

Beltran should get some punishment. He should not be saved by the union.

[LookinUp]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

But while no one can dispute that Luhnow’s baseball operations department is an industry leader in its analytics, it is very clear to me that the culture of the baseball operations department, manifesting itself in the way its employees are treated, its relations with other Clubs, and its relations with the media and external stakeholders, has been very problematic.

This is a concern I have with Elias. Hopefully he's different. If you ask BJ Surhoff, he's not, but I know that's only one side of that story.