Update: Chris Davis missed two games with sinus infection, has recovered

[Redskins Rick]

12 minutes ago, backwardsk said:

You’d think that, if that were the case, we’d hear something from MLB by now.

or from unnamed sources, as those things are never keep quiet. Especially, since you keep playing through the first failed drug test.

[MurphDogg]

Davis still out of the lineup.

Iglesias is out of the lineup too, hard to imagine he would be getting a day off after his torrid start and two unplanned days off on Monday and Tuesday.

[O-The-Memories]

This post is going to be a little long, but it's something I wanted to get off my chest in regards to Chris Davis. He was good/great when we were competitive. From 2012-2016 was our competitive window in my opinion. During that time, Chris Davis was worth 17.9 WAR. Let's say that one WAR was worth 7 million dollars (I think it's been calculated at more than that now). So during those five years he was worth about 125 million dollars. We paid him fifty million dollars. Do you think Peter Angelos ever had the thought to say "Gee Chris, we are going to pay you 75 million more dollars, we really underpaid you man"! 

So the man made the money when he could make it, just like I would have. There's not a chance I would walk away from a single dollar of my contract. No doubt, he has been terrible since 2017. Just doing some rough calculations, he has been worth negative 5.5 WAR not including this season. So he has still provided a net positive of 12 or so WAR over the course of his contract. Not including this season, we have paid Chris Davis about 120 million dollars for these 12 wins. So yeah, the contract didn't work out. He's earned something like 30-35 million more than he has been worth. By the time the contact is over, it will look even worse. But here's the kicker. His contact from 2017-now isn't stopping us from being competitive. If we had to pick a time to have an albatross of a contact, this is the best time. His 23 million dollar salary could be used to get us a couple of good pickups, or one close to elite player. That might win us an extra 7-8 games over the course of the season if I am being generous. Where does that get us? So we win 68 games instead of 60? 

I agree with the posters that have stated that Chris Davis isn't blocking anyone right now. The best thing we can do is see if he can become a .700-.725 first baseman with good defense. Mountcastle isn't up and let's not pretend that giving someone like Nunez or Stewart more at bats is of some vital importance. I'm not happy with the contract, but he's not the biggest reason we are failing. We didn't net much from trading our stars. Britton, Manny, Bundy, and others I'm forgetting didn't get us one top level prospect (in my opinion). We traded guys like Hader and Davies among others. Our farm system is average even with high draft picks. We play in a division where we are without a shadow of a doubt the least talented team in the A.L. East. 

I just wanting to put things in a different perspective. I wish Chris would learn to bunt and listen to advice and change his approach at the plate. I still wish him the best, and let's hope that he is taking days off for reasons unrelated to COVID.

[Natty]

Covid or Peds? Which is it.

[makoman]

25 minutes ago, O-The-Memories said:

This post is going to be a little long, but it's something I wanted to get off my chest in regards to Chris Davis. He was good/great when we were competitive. From 2012-2016 was our competitive window in my opinion. During that time, Chris Davis was worth 17.9 WAR. Let's say that one WAR was worth 7 million dollars (I think it's been calculated at more than that now). So during those five years he was worth about 125 million dollars. We paid him fifty million dollars. Do you think Peter Angelos ever had the thought to say "Gee Chris, we are going to pay you 75 million more dollars, we really underpaid you man"! 

So the man made the money when he could make it, just like I would have. There's not a chance I would walk away from a single dollar of my contract. No doubt, he has been terrible since 2017. Just doing some rough calculations, he has been worth negative 5.5 WAR not including this season. So he has still provided a net positive of 12 or so WAR over the course of his contract. Not including this season, we have paid Chris Davis about 120 million dollars for these 12 wins. So yeah, the contract didn't work out. He's earned something like 30-35 million more than he has been worth. By the time the contact is over, it will look even worse. But here's the kicker. His contact from 2017-now isn't stopping us from being competitive. If we had to pick a time to have an albatross of a contact, this is the best time. His 23 million dollar salary could be used to get us a couple of good pickups, or one close to elite player. That might win us an extra 7-8 games over the course of the season if I am being generous. Where does that get us? So we win 68 games instead of 60? 

I agree with the posters that have stated that Chris Davis isn't blocking anyone right now. The best thing we can do is see if he can become a .700-.725 first baseman with good defense. Mountcastle isn't up and let's not pretend that giving someone like Nunez or Stewart more at bats is of some vital importance. I'm not happy with the contract, but he's not the biggest reason we are failing. We didn't net much from trading our stars. Britton, Manny, Bundy, and others I'm forgetting didn't get us one top level prospect (in my opinion). We traded guys like Hader and Davies among others. Our farm system is average even with high draft picks. We play in a division where we are without a shadow of a doubt the least talented team in the A.L. East. 

I just wanting to put things in a different perspective. I wish Chris would learn to bunt and listen to advice and change his approach at the plate. I still wish him the best, and let's hope that he is taking days off for reasons unrelated to COVID.

He was a good player for a time. Could have used him against the Royals. But I have nothing against him or anyone making whatever they can get. I just wish it would have been someone like the Red Sox that signed him (and then somehow traded him to the Dodgers, as they always do).

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

Interesting. This has to be Crush thinking about opting out. 

 

[wildcard]

7 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

Interesting. This has to be Crush thinking about opting out. 

 

I don't know.  If he was going to opt out why does it take days?

[Moose Milligan]

If he wanted to opt out, he'd have done it already.

The dude had a good spring and has looked somewhat decent so far.  I can't imagine he'd want to step away.  

This is weird.  We'll get the story eventually and it'll be weird.

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I don't know.  If he was going to opt out why does it take days?

He loves the drama.

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

If he wanted to opt out, he'd have done it already.

The dude had a good spring and has looked somewhat decent so far.  I can't imagine he'd want to step away.  

This is weird.  We'll get the story eventually and it'll be weird.

He's got a -1 OPS+ and has been worth -.3 rWAR in three games.

 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

6 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I don't know.  If he was going to opt out why does it take days?

Maybe appealing a positive drug test? I don't know why this is being kept under wraps and Hyde seems annoyed at the situation.

[Moose Milligan]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

He's got a -1 OPS+ and has been worth -.3 rWAR in three games.

 

I love it when you whip out the annoyingly small sample sizes.  

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

I love it when you whip out the annoyingly small sample sizes.  

1- I said it was three games

2- When you said "looked somewhat decent so far",  you set the bar at three games.

3- He's looked about as good as your mother.

[makoman]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

1- I said it was three games

2- When you said "looked somewhat decent so far",  you set the bar at three games.

3- He's looked about as good as your mother.

Moose's mother doesn't have a 30% LD rate. But like Davis she probably doesn't have any barrels either. 

[Moose Milligan]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

1- I said it was three games

2- When you said "looked somewhat decent so far",  you set the bar at three games.

3- He's looked about as good as your mother.

1.  You sure did.

2.  "Looked somewhat decent" is a statement that didn't bring any counting stats into the equation.

3.  Hope you blow out your Birkenstock's and your sous vide craps out, hippie.