Tuesday May 25: Orioles at Twins

[scOtt]

NEVER touched the plate. Out.

 

 

STILL! Gave gave back the run we got back.

 

 

 

Who posted the thread? Were not winning ONE MORE GAME this year.

Not a chance.

Zero.

None. Non. Zilch. Nada. Nyet.

[HowAboutThat]

17 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

You're being ridiculous.

He's young, he has upside and he's under team control for years.  If you can't admit to that, then you're just being fussy and intentionally obtuse.

I am never intentionally obtuse,

All I’m saying, is that he has no trade value right now. By that I mean no one will offer anything meaningful for him. Anybody would offer SOMETHING for him, but nothing meaningful.

[SteveA]

5 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

It took Arrieta almost 4 years in the majors before he figured it all out.  Both Kramer and Arrieta made their debut at age 24.

 

It has come out since how truly bad Rick Adair was as a pitching coach.  Not just Arrieta.  Britton corroborates.  And the fact that after we got rid of Adair he has never worked in baseball again says something.

https://www.camdenchat.com/platform/amp/2016/4/26/11506982/orioles-pitchers-arrieta-britton-pitching-coach-rick-adair 

Hopefully our current coaching staff is nothing like that.

 

[SteveA]

Just now, Philip said:

I am never intentionally obtuse,

All I’m saying, is that he has no trade value right now. By that I mean no one will offer anything meaningful for him. Anybody would offer SOMETHING for him, but nothing meaningful.

And everyone else is saying that is completely, unequivocally wrong.  That he has plenty of current trade value based on his potential and his career numbers   

So you aren't going to convince anyone, and no one is going to convince you.  You can keep repeating it but it won't make it amore true.

[Moose Milligan]

4 minutes ago, Philip said:

I am never intentionally obtuse,

All I’m saying, is that he has no trade value right now. By that I mean no one will offer anything meaningful for him. Anybody would offer SOMETHING for him, but nothing meaningful.

Yeah, I don't think you're correct here.

[SteveA]

Ok Plutko.  Time to come out of your slump.

[Bahama O's Fan]

So happy to see Plutko again. (rolls eyes)

[scOtt]

I'm done. That last extra give-back run is it.

[bpilktree]

14 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I see a fastball that's straight as an arrow and sits around 93-94.  The breaking/offspeed stuff is decent.  I'm not saying he has bad stuff, he doesn't.  Arrieta's was just better.

Arrieta stuff got better later on in the majors.  Arrieta had 52. strikeouts through his first 100 innings pitched which was his rookie year.  Kremer had 54 strike outs in his first 52 innings.  Now times are different but it does show his stuff is just as good early on in career. 

[SteveA]

Let's chase Berrios here.

[SteveA]

This is not good.

[SteveA]

I guess Austin Hays isn't really "available" if Valaika is stretching in case he needs to replace Mountcastle.

[SteveA]

Seeing that pitch count hit triple digits is a lot rarer than it was just a few years ago.

[MurphDogg]

7 minutes ago, SteveA said:

I guess Austin Hays isn't really "available" if Valaika is stretching in case he needs to replace Mountcastle.

Could be available to hit but not play the field, considering it is a hamstring injury. 

[Moose Milligan]

4 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Seeing that pitch count hit triple digits is a lot rarer than it was just a few years ago.

I remember when 120 was the pitch count to take out a starter.  Seemed like Mussina would hit 120 practically every time out.