Aristotelian Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, AnythingO's said: So relative to Urias and 2B, last year I believe the consensus was 2B was his best defensive position, this year he is playing above average at 3B so he must have a decent arm. I have seen posters say he is poor at 2B to justify Odor. Odor has a strong arm and can turn the DP well. Is Urias really a below average defensive 2B? Bbref dWAR and Fangraphs DEF both have Urias significantly better at 3B this year than 2B/SS last year. He doesn't have the strongest arm but he does everything else at 3B well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Guy Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, AnythingO's said: So relative to Urias and 2B, last year I believe the consensus was 2B was his best defensive position, this year he is playing above average at 3B so he must have a decent arm. I have seen posters say he is poor at 2B to justify Odor. Odor has a strong arm and can turn the DP well. Is Urias really a below average defensive 2B? His OAA this year is 0 at second. Last year it was -4. SSS overall though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spleen1015 Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 Not sure you can make a better Chirinos lineup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenaEngineer Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Aristotelian said: Bbref dWAR and Fangraphs DEF both have Urias significantly better at 3B this year than 2B/SS last year. He doesn't have the strongest arm but he does everything else at 3B well. It does surprise me a bit that they clearly feel Urias at 3B and Henderson at 2B is a better defensive option than flipping them, given that Henderson has played 7 games at 2B in his professional career, 6 at Norfolk, and Urias has played hundreds of games at 2B in his professional career. I am not arguing in any way, it just surprises me a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotelian Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, HelenaEngineer said: It does surprise me a bit that they clearly feel Urias at 3B and Henderson at 2B is a better defensive option than flipping them, given that Henderson has played 7 games at 2B in his professional career, 6 at Norfolk, and Urias has played hundreds of games at 2B in his professional career. I am not arguing in any way, it just surprises me a little. I think it is more about Urias's performance at 3B and he has been very solid. Eventually Gunnar will be 3B or SS but for now I think he helps most at 2B. That gets Odor out of the lineup and does the least disruption to a defense that is playing great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobby Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 1 hour ago, AnythingO's said: So relative to Urias and 2B, last year I believe the consensus was 2B was his best defensive position, this year he is playing above average at 3B so he must have a decent arm. I have seen posters say he is poor at 2B to justify Odor. Odor has a strong arm and can turn the DP well. Is Urias really a below average defensive 2B? I think Urias could hold his own against Odor at 2B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
now Posted September 4, 2022 Share Posted September 4, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Aristotelian said: I think it is more about Urias's performance at 3B and he has been very solid. Eventually Gunnar will be 3B or SS but for now I think he helps most at 2B. That gets Odor out of the lineup and does the least disruption to a defense that is playing great. Yes and isn't 2B a more active position (chances, and range) than 3B, espec. with a RHP starter and more lefties in the opposing lineup? (Edit: just after I posted this, the game starts with two fielding gems by Henderson at 2B!! :)) Edited September 4, 2022 by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fiver6565 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Really surprised Aguilar getting this much play vs RH pitching. They must be seeing something that has then expecting a breakout from him. I guess he has hit a couple/few balls hard. Hope they’re right!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RZNJ Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Fiver6565 said: Really surprised Aguilar getting this much play vs RH pitching. They must be seeing something that has then expecting a breakout from him. I guess he has hit a couple/few balls hard. Hope they’re right!! Besides the GW homer, I have not been that impressed with Stowers. He really extends his arms and has trouble with anything inside. He doesn't seem to adjust to the location of the pitch. He's dangerous but it looks like he can be pitched to. Aguilar looked terrible his first game but has had some good AB's since then, just missing a homer to LF and lining out to RF. Also, Vavra has really tailed off so I don't have a problem giving Aguilar AB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keygans Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I don’t know… I would rather Stowers learn at the job. Especially against RHP. Otherwise I really like this lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooreisbetter27 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I hope we take both games. We need to at least split. If we only win 1, I'd like it to be game 1. After Gausman's stupid comments a few months ago, I wish nothing but losses on him (that and he plays for Toronto). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristotelian Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, Fiver6565 said: Really surprised Aguilar getting this much play vs RH pitching. They must be seeing something that has then expecting a breakout from him. I guess he has hit a couple/few balls hard. Hope they’re right!! Gausman has reverse splits. I bet Stowers and/or Vavra starts Game 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spleen1015 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Can't grasp Hyde thinking Aguilar can help this team win a WC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashLumber Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 (edited) Game 2 of double header. https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-orioles/2022/09/05/661045#game_state=preview,game_tab=boxscore,game=661045 Edited September 5, 2022 by NashLumber correction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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