Thursday, June 23: Orioles begin 10 game road trip in the South Side of Chicago
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Just checked some box scores-- I believe the O's have let a SP start an inning at 90+ pitches only once all year. Grayson was sent out for the 7th inning on April 5th vs Pittsburgh, at 92 pitches. The only other close one I found, Kremer was sent out for the 6th on April 24th at LAA, at 89 pitches. For what it's worth, on both occasions the pitcher gave up a HR and didn't finish the inning. -
I actually think Cano is a lot closer to getting back to elite performance than the expected numbers suggest. The GB numbers are still absolutely elite (100th percentile) and he’s getting a ton of chases (99th percentile) and whiffs (82nd percentile). And tonight, 3 whiffs on 9 swings, so that number will come up a little further. Pretty good company amongst the guys with 30+ whiff rate and 60+ GB rate: Clay Holmes (30.5; 68.3) — .255 wOBA Camilo Doval (35.1; 64.9) — .288 wOBA Erik Miller (34.7; 61.1) — .309 wOBA Declan Cronin (29.9; 61.2) — .279 wOBA The HH rate is staggeringly high, and the average EV is relatedly high, but from watching him all year, I don’t think he’s making that many bad pitches. I do feel like the bad pitches he’s made have mostly gotten smashed so far. The guy has given up 12 flyballs all year coming into tonight, and 4 of them have gone over the fence. The Wong AB tonight kind of sums up Cano’s season so far, I think. He made 5 good pitches in that at-bat. (1) Whiff on a great sinker, (2) whiff on another good sinker, (3) barely fouls off another great sinker down and in, (4) tough take on an elevated 4-seamer, (5) fouls off a changeup well out of the zone. The 6th pitch was a sinker that just didn’t sink, and Wong smoked it. That’s a pretty damn well-pitched AB to end up with a 102 MPH laser for an RBI. Anyway, a lot of the misses remind me of mid-season last year. Leaving the sinker (and the slider) up at times, the classic cement mixer effect where they just hang. And they’re getting crushed. It seemed like last year there was a tweak with the elbow that helped drive that sinker back down — perhaps something like that again? If they could just eliminate some of those awful pitches, I think he’d be in business, because the profile is really good otherwise. -
Agree that Grayson had more left in the tank and wish Hyder have let him take on the 7th as well. in the early innings, I wish Grayson just kept with the fastball rather than mixing pitches and looking to establish offspeed. His fastball was generating swing & miss. -
By Chavez Ravine · Posted
I think it’s white people problems to worry about the inconsistent quality of the Negro Leagues. The black ball players lived with a far more consistent worse. Seems a minor reconciliation to combine the stats. -
By Moose Milligan · Posted
Yes, he'll be in the Hall. He will be looked at one of the better hitters of his era. I also think the whole WAR argument about certain players is silly, it's certainly silly against Soto. Like, no one wants to watch Juan Soto because he's a great defender. No one advertises that as part of his game, no one pretends he is a great defender...so why's that held against him, exactly? Because WAR? "Oh, WAR says he's not a great defender, he doesn't bring enough value with the glove so he's not as valuable as this guy and wah wah wah, whine, whine whine..." It's such a lazy argument that doesn't tell the whole story, that Juan Soto hit for a 1.178 OPS in the World Series at 20 years old. It doesn't tell the whole story that he's one of the brightest, youngest stars in a game that desperately needs bright young stars and still can't figure out how to market them. WAR doesn't tell the whole story for a guy like Soto just like it didn't for a guy like Ichiro, just like it didn't for Tony Gwynn. Does anyone want to tell me that Tony Gwynn's greatness and brilliance can simply be boiled down to 69.2 with a straight face? That brings me to Jeter which...I mean, cry about it a little harder, guys. Near unanimous selection to the Hall of Fame, really? Yes, Yankees fans still think he was a great defender because jump throws are impressive...everyone else knows he wasn't. That's our privilege and their delusion. But everyone here also knows that a Hall of Fame vote is an emotional one and that, like it or not, Derek Jeter was one of the prime faces of the MLB during his career in the way that someone like Barry Larkin never was. It's not Jeter's fault that the Reds aren't the Yankees and that the Reds only won 1 World Series during Larkin's career compared to what Jeter was a part of. But that's how the cookie crumbles sometimes. -
By OriolesMagic83 · Posted
If the Yankees move him to SS, he'll be heralded as one of the all time great SS as long as he can make some theatrical dives for the ball. -
BB-ref did it briefly, then switched back. I have mixed feelings about it TBH, because I think the overall quality of the Negro Leagues varied a lot from one time period to another, more so than in the majors. But I’m not a keen student of the Negro Leagues so I’ll leave it to baseball history scholars to debate.
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