Do you think Elias will trade Mancini

[Gurgi]

I think we trade him because he is only a first base, DH type.  Mountcastle does that role now.  I do not think we need both of them with prospects like Stowers looking close. 

[Frobby]

6 hours ago, Chelsea_Phil said:

Sounds like he knows a deal is practically done?

I don’t think he knows anything.  He’s been bracing himself for a trade for weeks.  

[vab]

Jason LaCanfora brought up a good point on this that I hadn't considered and haven't really heard anywhere else. If they didn't trade him last year because the offers weren't good enough, why would they trade him for even less this year? Also, this rebuild is past the "trade a veteran for a couple of A-ball lottery tickets" phase so I think he stays. And probably gets hot once the deadline passes. 

[Frobby]

I think he gets traded because it makes the most sense long term, and that is where Elias remains focused.   But who knows if the return will be worthwhile.   If not, Elias won’t do it.  So it could go either way, depending on what gets offered.  

[Sports Guy]

Just now, vab said:

Jason LaCanfora brought up a good point on this that I hadn't considered and haven't really heard anywhere else. If they didn't trade him last year because the offers weren't good enough, why would they trade him for even less this year? Also, this rebuild is past the "trade a veteran for a couple of A-ball lottery tickets" phase so I think he stays. And probably gets hot once the deadline passes. 

I think there’s a good chance he’s worth more than a year ago.  He’s another year removed from cancer and he has performed better.  There is also an additional playoff spot and the DH in the NL, so it opens up more landing spots.

 

[UMDTerrapins]

It’s possible that teams that are sizing up Mancini are also interested in discussing Mullins & Santander first. If they can’t reach a deal for either, then they might move on to Mancini. Could make the best and finals take a while to emerge. 

Edited July 29, 2022 by UMDTerrapins

[Three Run Homer]

The Benintendi trade is useful because it likely gives us an upper bound on what Mancini could bring back.  Benintendi brought back a former 1st round pick who has had health problems but is pitching well in A-ball, plus a former 4th round pick who is pitching well in A-ball, plus a ninth-round pick from last year.   Trey will bring back less, but a high pick pitching well in A-ball would probably immediately become the O's third best pitching prospect.       

[Sydnor]

If you’re into the whole the Orioles ownership wants to save a penny wherever they can take (I am not yet), if they trade him, the team that acquired Trey is on the hook for the $250k buyout of the mutual option. So, if you subscribe to that view, it would make it more likely that he would be traded to save the remaining salary this year plus the $250k buyout.

[vab]

1 minute ago, Sydnor said:

If you’re into the whole the Orioles ownership wants to save a penny wherever they can take (I am not yet), if they trade him, the team that acquired Trey is on the hook for the $250k buyout of the mutual option. So, if you subscribe to that view, it would make it more likely that he would be traded to save the remaining salary this year plus the $250k buyout.

If they were pinching pennies like that Trey would have been gone two years ago.

[Frobby]

9 minutes ago, Three Run Homer said:

The Benintendi trade is useful because it likely gives us an upper bound on what Mancini could bring back.  Benintendi brought back a former 1st round pick who has had health problems but is pitching well in A-ball, plus a former 4th round pick who is pitching well in A-ball, plus a ninth-round pick from last year.   Trey will bring back less, but a high pick pitching well in A-ball would probably immediately become the O's third best pitching prospect.       

It is logical that Mancini would bring back less than Benintendi, but logic doesn’t always hold in trade markets that fluctuate by the day.   So, we’ll see.  

[Three Run Homer]

The Mets just acquired Tyler Naquin.  They acquired Daniel Vogelbach already.  Both of them are left handed, but how many OF/1B/DH types do they need?   

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

10 minutes ago, Three Run Homer said:

The Mets just acquired Tyler Naquin.  They acquired Daniel Vogelbach already.  Both of them are left handed, but how many OF/1B/DH types do they need?   

I just saw that too and I'd have to think it's unlikely the Mets trade for Trey after picking up Vogelbach and Naquin. I agree with Frobby that Trey has been mentally preparing himself for a potential trade.

I think Mancini ends up not getting traded because Elias doesn't get a good enough offer to make it worth it. 

New York Mets acquire Tyler Naquin, Phillip Diehl in trade with Cincinnati Reds

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The New York Mets acquired outfielder Tyler Naquinand left-hander Phillip Diehl from the Cincinnati Redson Thursday night, the teams announced.

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The 31-year-old Naquin gives the NL East-leading Mets a veteran outfielder and left-handed bat with solid career numbers (.280/.332/.473 with 50 homers) against right-handers. He has played mostly right field this season in Cincinnati but has experience in all three outfield spots.

 

[DrinkinWithFermi]

The Mets are probably out now after adding Vogelbach and Naquin, but I still went with "yes." It just makes very little sense not to trade him (especially after the Wells injury) if anything that Elias feels is remotely decent is out there, and I believe it will be.

[Roy Firestone]

I love Trey Mancini. Weve got a lot of outfielders who are going to be very good, and Trey is basically a 1b, DH, and a mediocre outfielder....but Trey represents something for the franchise too...its more than just sentiment...hes a clubhouse leader and loves the city...this is a tough call for me...I think we could lose him anyway next year....but in my view..I think he stays...Id hate to see him go.

[Three Run Homer]

22 hours ago, Roy Firestone said:

I love Trey Mancini. Weve got a lot of outfielders who are going to be very good, and Trey is basically a 1b, DH, and a mediocre outfielder....but Trey represents something for the franchise too...its more than just sentiment...hes a clubhouse leader and loves the city...this is a tough call for me...I think we could lose him anyway next year....but in my view..I think he stays...Id hate to see him go.

You may be right that Trey will not be back next season, but in the last few days I've come around to thinking that this team has earned the right to take a shot at the playoffs, and Mancini should be here to lead the charge.